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  • Kavian
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    Originally posted by PersianLegion View Post
    I hope this criticism does not cause any hard feeling. I just give my honest opinion.

    Poor article trying to picture a simple match to war of nations. The wrong reference to Iran and Turkmenistan as successors to Iran and Turan is also another failure. Giving too much unnecessary hype over a stupid game.

    Historical correction note: Turan as many turks make mistake was not land of Turks but Iranian speaking nomads and non Zoroastrians who lived on steppes of Central Asia and had battles with us in legendary times. Later Pan Turanian (early Hungarians and and some Turks from Turkey) and Pan Turks build up on the idea since Turks later occupied that region. Similarity of the word Turan and Turk gave them more excuses. Turan is simply refer to Tur who was older brother of Iraj who ruled over Iran. Tur, Salm and Iraj were sons of Fereydun the legendary king of Iran in Shahnameh. Even Firdusi in 11 century was somehow confused about word Turan and Turkic occupied Central Asia in some degree. Read the actual sources for Shahnameh and Zoroastrian sources for this.



    Anyway the former name of a club can be simply a coincidence because that stadium is the newly built Turkmen arena and it shows they want to take full host advantage by getting a draw from us. They know if the match was in Eshgh Abad, many Iranians could go there since it is not far from Iranian border. India did the same thing they only moved Iran and Oman match to Bangalore because of humidity and hoping for rain fill the pitch so we can not control the ball while they are used to this type of game.

    I hope you do not think I consider myself a know it all type of person. It happened that I have a pretty strong background in Iranian history and Shahnameh (I read it all when I was 8). Once I was a super nationalist but not dumb I used to chew books for food! Football, Books, and experiment were my passion as kid.
    Fully agree with comments here. a) confusing and inaccurate account of history and b) inappropriate comparison of a football match to war between two nations. No need to create another Iran vs. Arab mess in football stadiums.

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  • mahestan
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    Originally posted by PersianLegion View Post
    This culture is specially very evident in IR military industry... doing a paint job and reintroducing old Russian/Chinese/American weapons from 60s/70s as new Iranian inventions!
    Oh, are you telling me the Northrop F-5 Tiger II that they added a second vertical stabilizer to make it a twin tail is not a BRAND new aircraft?....wow I never thought... Sarcasm aside, all they are fooling is their own people. They aren't fooling anyone in the West.

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  • PersianLegion
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    Originally posted by webmaster View Post
    The main thing is everyone knows that they COPIED it from PFDC and Behru's article. This is not the first time by farrrrr and we all know in the Islamic Republic's culture they do not credit anyone for anything but rather take everything they can and use it to credit themselves.
    This culture is specially very evident in IR military industry... doing a paint job and reintroducing old Russian/Chinese/American weapons from 60s/70s as new Iranian inventions!

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  • webmaster
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    The main thing is everyone knows that they COPIED it from PFDC and Behru's article. This is not the first time by farrrrr and we all know in the Islamic Republic's culture they do not credit anyone for anything but rather take everything they can and use it to credit themselves.

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  • AminGP
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    Originally posted by Bi-honar View Post
    I'm sure they came across it here since PFDC is the only place where it has been posted. It's really not a big deal though since I don't make my living off writing and it's actually nice that it got a little more exposure. At any rate, whoever read it here is probably reading this too!
    Yes but the least they could do is to give you some credit. It just bothers me that they publish as ISNA with no mention of you or PFDC

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  • AminGP
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    Originally posted by PersianLegion View Post
    dadash shayad nevisandash yeki basheh. shoma che esrari dari? shayad nakhad khodesho inja moarefi kone!
    These type of behavior needs to stop and if you don't take action against them they're gonna continue and steal other people's bits and pieces and publish it as their own.

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  • Kaveh11
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    Wow, this article is really well written! Very prof

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  • Bi-honar
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    Originally posted by AminGP View Post
    As soon as I read the title I knew it was yours. I think you should definetly get in touch with them and find out who and how did they come across this article.

    In US you would get sued and the person who posted this article would get fired. This is just embarrassing that a supposedly a reliable news source like ISNA is doing something like this.
    I'm sure they came across it here since PFDC is the only place where it has been posted. It's really not a big deal though since I don't make my living off writing and it's actually nice that it got a little more exposure. At any rate, whoever read it here is probably reading this too!


    Originally posted by PersianLegion View Post
    dadash shayad nevisandash yeki basheh. shoma che esrari dari? shayad nakhad khodesho inja moarefi kone!
    Definitely not me PL jaan. I can translate Farsi into English fine, but I wouldn't even attempt to go the other way!

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  • PersianLegion
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    Originally posted by AminGP View Post
    As soon as I read the title I knew it was yours. I think you should definetly get in touch with them and find out who and how did they come across this article.

    In US you would get sued and the person who posted this article would get fired. This is just embarrassing that a supposedly a reliable news source like ISNA is doing something like this.
    dadash shayad nevisandash yeki basheh. shoma che esrari dari? shayad nakhad khodesho inja moarefi kone!

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  • sarbaz
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    Wow it is unbelievable that in 4 tries , TM has never beaten Turkemanistan ?????

    This time it won't be easy either

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  • AminGP
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    Originally posted by Bi-honar View Post
    Thanks for letting me know Amin jaan - no they didn't ask for permission and yes it would have definitely been nice to at least mention that they borrowed parts of it from my article.
    As soon as I read the title I knew it was yours. I think you should definetly get in touch with them and find out who and how did they come across this article.

    In US you would get sued and the person who posted this article would get fired. This is just embarrassing that a supposedly a reliable news source like ISNA is doing something like this.

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  • PersianLegion
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    It is a common knowledge, they may be genius.

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  • Bi-honar
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    Originally posted by AminGP View Post
    Behrou Jan, you article was translated and posted to Isna but it doesn't say it was written by you



    I also saw the translated piece was posted on footballitarin http://footballitarin.com/link_page.php?id=229057

    did they ask you for permission? even if they did they should include your name
    Thanks for letting me know Amin jaan - no they didn't ask for permission and yes it would have definitely been nice to at least mention that they borrowed parts of it from my article.

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  • AminGP
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    Originally posted by Z Joon View Post
    Typical Iranian trash media. No shame and no limits.

    I wouldn't be surprised if PFDC was the main source for most Iranian news websites too, even important ones. Sometimes I even suspect Navad from picking some bits and pieces of everything from here
    There are few "journalist" here who work in Iran and I've seen some of the rumors or news that started in PFDC makes it to Iranian media within couple of hours. I remember there was a member here who told us a story about when he met Omid Namazi in a party and I remember reading it on navad.net few hours later.

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  • Z Joon
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    Originally posted by AminGP View Post
    Behrou Jan, you article was translated and posted to Isna but it doesn't say it was written by you



    I also saw the translated piece was posted on footballitarin http://footballitarin.com/link_page.php?id=229057

    did they ask you for permission? even if they did they should include your name
    Typical Iranian trash media. No shame and no limits.

    I wouldn't be surprised if PFDC was the main source for most Iranian news websites too, even important ones. Sometimes I even suspect Navad from picking some bits and pieces of everything from here

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