Omid team's moral boosting win

[Doctor DOOM]

this week's navad and the post mortem of this clausterfu*k :

http://footballitarin.com/video_page.php?id=243

after around one hour 10 minutes or so they start the omid team coversation

and I still say poor mansourian bears the least blame and fault for this fu*k up.


the only thing is while adel wanted to INDIRECTLY hit at the officials in IFF (and kept saying even your 12 yr old kid could do search ... ), mansourian kept on missing the most important reply:
it is NOT within purview of the head coach to take care of paper work and coordinations and media relations and ... . each person is having a set of specific duties FOR WHICH THEY GET THEIR SALARY.

and I wish ali mansour had said: then Mr. ferdowsipoor, why dont you do the job of camerman, and sound editing and busboys and stage designer and repairs and ... becoz you "dont trust the competence of your cameraman or sound editor or ..." are you doing it now? No. you're only doing your tasks and are trusting those others to do theirs



ps: apparently ali mansour did hear me (I typed the above while I was listening to the clip)

fu*k! apparently that chartered plane which some of us credited the IFF, was actually afsharzadeh's (head of olympics committee) work and NOT IFF's!
so the ONLY credit or bright spot in the middle of a huge pile of shit on IFF's table was NOT even IFF's. It was the olympics committee's!!!
and yet, everyone bastard is still keeping his post in IFF!
such is the way things work in Iran!

[Martin-Reza]

Yeah...that was quite odd...The commentator called him "Lak" but there is no such name in my list (The AFC official list) or any list of the team I have seen.

Honestly now, isn't that really ridiculous ?

I guess that's him, young Saba keeper: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamed_Lak

[Hadi]

lol they fielded a banned player.

this team doesnt even deserve to play international football....such mismanagement...such a messed up coaching and staff.....unbelievable.

[Doctor DOOM]

The real story behind our Omid elimination


After the miserable showing by the whole Iranian team and staff, I was ready to rant about how pathetic our “stars” like Ansarifard, Afshin, Hajsafi, … performed and how they displayed a (lack of) quality seen only in back allies of provinces in Iran rather than a national team. I was down and wrote on and on about how Mansourian’s inexperience got exposed when none of his substitutions made any impact on the last 30 minutes of the game. I screamed about the lack of playmaker and any sort of creativity in the middle. I wrote and wrote about how idiotic and immature our players were with their insistence on back heels and unorthodox passing when the more straight forward passes would have sufficed. I remarked on the easy chances and goals we conceded.

And I wrote in anger and dismay … until I came across this little gem of a news:
Omid’s midfielder Jalal Kamyabinia, was ineligible to play and barred from play in our away game in Iraq by AFC.
But here’s the twist: Due to IFF’s incompetence and their failure in conveying this news to the staff, Kamyabynia did play in that game and AFC announced they ruled that game in favor of Iraq by a scoreline of 3-0.

This catastrophic news was brought to the staff and later on, to the team’s attention who understandably lost all their hopes and drive and apparently some of the lads actually wept in the dressing room. Nobody can bear such a twist of fate, from a 1-0 ahead in an away game to a 3-0 loss in a matter of seconds.

This put everything in context and made sense of all the poor passing, rushed, emotional hurried game, and generally the whole miserable performance. Now I am left with my anger, but directed at the ever incompetent and frankly, brainless federation of ours rather than the poor lads whose legs must have felt like lead, trying to claw their way back from a 3-0 deficit.

And this completes the infamy of Kafashian’s federation who has failed in each and every major tournament Iran participated in. Incompetence bordering on criminal! Enough is enough, Mr. Kafashian. High time you took away your misery-ridden shadow of incompetence away from our football, once and for all.

You know what is the worst part of it all? It's that the IFF had the AFC notice of Kamyabikia's suspension FOUR MONTHS in advance of the Iraq game!!! Such is the extent of IFF's pathetic incompetence.

[Keano]

Thanks for the elaboration guys.

I too believe that the media coverage of our youth teams of all levels is insufficient and quite unfair. The fans obviously are interested in following our U-23 team matches, the participation of PFDC members in the Iraq vs Iran thread is a clear indication of that. Why media and IRIB shows little interest in broadcasting U-23 matches is beyond me. Our media is more into Haashie and khaale zanak bazi than promoting the sports itself. You would find hundreds of articles about Daei and Kashani fiasco, or Ansarifard's fluctuation in selecting his future team etc.

Nevertheless good luck to our boys in the return match against Iraq in Iran, I truly wished this match would take place in cities like Ardebil (A beautiful stadium and fierce football fans) or even in Tabriz (Despite the nerve wrecking behavior of its fans I still believe they would make one hell of an atmosphere for any international opponent).

[maij]

I also must mention the goalkeeper (who till the end of the match could not be identified. this shows how removed and disinterested our media are, when they cant even recognize their own players!!!!), .

Yeah...that was quite odd...The commentator called him "Lak" but there is no such name in my list (The AFC official list) or any list of the team I have seen.

Honestly now, isn't that really ridiculous ?

[maij]

LOL, Maij jaan gerefti ma ro to ham ha! LOL JK But seriously speaking I suppose by "Iraq" you meant to say "Iran"? Otherwise I am more confused than before!

OOOppssss...I am making too many typos these days and that is because I stay up so late and sometimes even doze of in front of the screens while typingggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg ...

Oh...sorry Again

Maazerat mikham...Iraq ke Goozid , Ein Iran khodamon bod ke Khoob bazi kard va bord.



..Which reminds me , I have to hit the sack soon, I have an early flight tomorrow.

[Doctor DOOM]

Unfortunately I missed the game, however going by PFDC members' comments it seems our boys did not impress and on the contrary displayed a somewhat lackluster football. I also visited an Iraqi discussion board and noticed pretty much all its members resented their own team for "losing to an equally horrendous team" yes this is what they implied! Was that the case? did we play that bad?

everything is relative.
we shdnt expect free flowing, great tactical and highly cohesive performances from a bunch of kids who have had (at best) 5-6 days of practice together.
not to mention the disgusting lack of any interest in them by the media (and therefore, the public), which at that age could be quite disconcerting and disappointing.

yes, the team severely lacked a creative playmaker in the middle. and mosalman, despite being a fantastic player is not a regular playmaker. perhaps rahmani could have helped here.
this lack of playmaker meant they focused their tactics on the wings, espeially the left where afshin was a constant thorn in iraqis side.

and as majid said, if they were only slightly more lucky, the margin would have been larger.

I also must mention the goalkeeper (who till the end of the match could not be identified. this shows how removed and disinterested our media are, when they cant even recognize their own players!!!!), who did wonderfully well on crosses and shots. he showed great athletic ability and daring to come out and either deflect or punch those 50-50 difficult balls.
I was very impressed by him, whoever the kid was.

[Keano]

Anyway , politics aside , Iraq played very well and deserved the win.

LOL, Maij jaan gerefti ma ro to ham ha! LOL JK But seriously speaking I suppose by "Iraq" you meant to say "Iran"? Otherwise I am more confused than before!

[maij]

Thank you Maij jaan. Your elaboration on the details of the match is dearly appreciated. I thought so too, meaning bias might have been the main factor.

One thing I have often noticed with most Iraqis is how they regard Iran team as a somewhat "disliked" national team, to an extent that some of them compare beating and humiliating Iran just as delightful and sweet as beating teams like KSA. Not implying the Iraqis hating on us (Although some do) but rather how they take each and every defeat against Iran as an insult and fully disheartening for the entire nation, this comes while Iraq itself is almost one of the only Arab countries the majority of Iranians cheer for and wish their success in football, but again this is football and rivalry accompanied with hostile mentality is part of it. Below is the link to the site I was referring to:

http://www.aliraqi.org/forums/showth...=102798&page=3

The riverly between Iran and Iraq goes way back to the sixties and like anywhere in the world , within two neighboring countries , you have the odd haters and extremist. Those haters are probably "Baathist" who are hated in Iraq anyway. I could only laugh when I saw some comments about Iraq government bowing to their masters the Iranians....khosham omad

Anyway , politics aside , Iraq played very well and deserved the win.

One more comment about the team is the physical strength or lack of it to be precise. Iranian players , generation after generation , were always known for their strong builds and physical strengths. What I see now is a generation like "Farhad Majidi" who drop flat on their face on the first hint of tackle!!!

That is alarming .

[Keano]

Thank you Maij jaan. Your elaboration on the details of the match is dearly appreciated. I thought so too, meaning bias might have been the main factor.

One thing I have often noticed with most Iraqis is how they regard Iran team as a somewhat "disliked" national team, to an extent that some of them compare beating and humiliating Iran just as delightful and sweet as beating teams like KSA. Not implying the Iraqis hating on us (Although some do) but rather how they take each and every defeat against Iran as an insult and fully disheartening for the entire nation, this comes while Iraq itself is almost one of the only Arab countries the majority of Iranians cheer for and wish their success in football, but again this is football and rivalry accompanied with hostile mentality is part of it. Below is the link to the site I was referring to:

http://www.aliraqi.org/forums/showthread.php?t=102798&page=3

[maij]

If U23 qualifies for London 2012, how many of their current players will still be eligible agewise? I think Afshin and Ansarifard are pushing close to 23 by then.

I believe that 3 over age players allowed in each team

[maij]

Unfortunately I missed the game, however going by PFDC members' comments it seems our boys did not impress and on the contrary displayed a somewhat lackluster football. I also visited an Iraqi discussion board and noticed pretty much all its members resented their own team for "losing to an equally horrendous team" yes this is what they implied! Was that the case? did we play that bad?

Seriously ?!!!

Iran's u23 did not impress ?!!!

It could be one of many reasons:

1- Those people where watching the match on a two square inch stream on their laptop
2- They have been watching far too many Barcelona matches.
3- They will never ever be satisfied with any Iran football performances.

To cap it all , I did monitor the Iraqi TV post match expert panel and the Iraqis were full for praise for Iran., hands down. This is something you do dnot normally expect to hear from the Arab commentators in this part of the world.

Keano jan. This young team played well and deservedly won the match. There was no statistics but I guess the possession was something like 60% for Iran and scoring chances just 1 for Iraq against at least 5 or 6 for the boyz.

[Paradigm]

If U23 qualifies for London 2012, how many of their current players will still be eligible agewise? I think Afshin and Ansarifard are pushing close to 23 by then.

[Keano]

Unfortunately I missed the game, however going by PFDC members' comments it seems our boys did not impress and on the contrary displayed a somewhat lackluster football. I also visited an Iraqi discussion board and noticed pretty much all its members resented their own team for "losing to an equally horrendous team" yes this is what they implied! Was that the case? did we play that bad?