Bagheri has not lost all those attribute that he Doc nicely put.
Last time I watched him playing against Pas , he displayed many of those skills. Of course the age factor and the more defensive role he is assigned to him , curtails his desire to surge forward and his explosive shots.
Bagheri remains an icon in Iran's history book. He is still one of my all time favorite players. A Gentleman a dedicated player and overall skills that you hardly find in the current crop of players.
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Dr D check out http://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthread.php?t=565519 for some good clips.Originally posted by Doctor DOOM View PostNo. it is not the present bagheri I'm talking about.
it is the karim bagheri of 1997-2000 period.
the player who was one of our most lethal players becoz he was always at the right place at the right time, doing the RIGHT THINGS.
Now, we may have highly skillful midfielders, who do one or at best 2 of the above things, but none do all 3 !!!
I just finished watching saipa's ACL game , after finishing sepahan's disastrous display. also having kept TM's recent performances in mind, I was reminded of how sorely we miss a player with the capabilities of bagheri of 97-2000 era.
a midfielder whose shooting (1) was just a dangerous factor all by itself. I wish there was a statistic of how many long range shots we used to have during those years, but I sure as hell know today's abysmal stats are nowhere near those.
in today's 2 games I hardly saw one long ranger attempted ! why?
it was pathetic , and for fans like us, very nerve-wracking. becoz there was sepahan who were trailing the game and didnt have any idea how to penetrate the packed syrian defense. and they didnt even attempt one of the sure-fire methods in such games: long range shooting.
but long range shooting requires practice. you cant just whack the ball just like that. you've got to have a couple of midfielders who daily practice this and have some accuracy to make these shots count.
if the ball doesnt go in, it forces the keeper to parry and maybe give our forwards a chance on the rebounds.
but today? nothing ! not a freaking thing !!!
PATHETIC !
then there's the matter of a player who collects the second balls(2), the deflected ones ( by opponent's defense or GK ) who hovers around the outside the opponent 18 and pounces on the loose balls or deflected ones.
Bagheri used these very well. mainly becoz he used to READ the game well. and expected such balls. and either shot them or gave a through pass or ... etc. generally creating a dangerous moment.
these days we dont have many of our teams covering these areas well to the extent to do something with these balls directly. at best, some collect the ball and pass laterally !!!!
and finally, he was so active that at times we saw him parallel to our center forward or even overtaking him in his surges(3) forward. these days we do NOT see anyone of our midfielders do this !
- these days we have ppl like nekunam who once in a while shoots with average accuracy and this happens too far in between. comes in to collect balls but isnt active enough.
- teymoorian who is very active and may be able to cover the area outside 18, but doesnt have the skills or shooting ability to CREATE something out of it !
- karimi who doesnt shoot well, isnt all that active either.
- jabbari is active and a good passer, but leaves a lot to be desired in shooting.
- same with shojaei.
- mobaali isnt as active and adventurous and doesnt surge forward, while he has good shooting ability.
- sadeghi is totally out of form.
- navidkia if on those RARE days that he is fit, isnt a good shooter either, nor is he active in surges.
I dont see anyone in our club games either to do this well !!
so what is the problem here? when we have such a clear and recent role model to shape some of our midfielders, why dont we use it?
I do miss that bagheri ...... A LOT !
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..... which makes for a COMPLETE FOOTBALL PLAYEROriginally posted by yashar_fasihnia View Postyadesh bekheyr...
he could shoot, head, tackle, cover large field area, lead the team, keep his calm, pass, cross, win physical challenges and score!
I agree. no1 is even CLOSE to him !!!
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yadesh bekheyr...
he could shoot, head, tackle, cover large field area, lead the team, keep his calm, pass, cross, win physical challenges and score!
noone in iran at the moment can do half the things he did when he was in his prime
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His tackling skills were also excellent and he was physically in very good shape. He would not fall down like many of our players now do when challenging other players and of course his shots were always dangerous and bloody hard.
Its really a shame he couldn't get used to England and the bad luck he had, because he could have been great in Charlton.
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Bagheri, koja'ee ke yadet be kheir
No. it is not the present bagheri I'm talking about.
it is the karim bagheri of 1997-2000 period.
the player who was one of our most lethal players becoz he was always at the right place at the right time, doing the RIGHT THINGS.
Now, we may have highly skillful midfielders, who do one or at best 2 of the above things, but none do all 3 !!!
I just finished watching saipa's ACL game , after finishing sepahan's disastrous display. also having kept TM's recent performances in mind, I was reminded of how sorely we miss a player with the capabilities of bagheri of 97-2000 era.
a midfielder whose shooting (1) was just a dangerous factor all by itself. I wish there was a statistic of how many long range shots we used to have during those years, but I sure as hell know today's abysmal stats are nowhere near those.
in today's 2 games I hardly saw one long ranger attempted ! why?
it was pathetic , and for fans like us, very nerve-wracking. becoz there was sepahan who were trailing the game and didnt have any idea how to penetrate the packed syrian defense. and they didnt even attempt one of the sure-fire methods in such games: long range shooting.
but long range shooting requires practice. you cant just whack the ball just like that. you've got to have a couple of midfielders who daily practice this and have some accuracy to make these shots count.
if the ball doesnt go in, it forces the keeper to parry and maybe give our forwards a chance on the rebounds.
but today? nothing ! not a freaking thing !!!
PATHETIC !
then there's the matter of a player who collects the second balls(2), the deflected ones ( by opponent's defense or GK ) who hovers around the outside the opponent 18 and pounces on the loose balls or deflected ones.
Bagheri used these very well. mainly becoz he used to READ the game well. and expected such balls. and either shot them or gave a through pass or ... etc. generally creating a dangerous moment.
these days we dont have many of our teams covering these areas well to the extent to do something with these balls directly. at best, some collect the ball and pass laterally !!!!
and finally, he was so active that at times we saw him parallel to our center forward or even overtaking him in his surges(3) forward. these days we do NOT see anyone of our midfielders do this !
- these days we have ppl like nekunam who once in a while shoots with average accuracy and this happens too far in between. comes in to collect balls but isnt active enough.
- teymoorian who is very active and may be able to cover the area outside 18, but doesnt have the skills or shooting ability to CREATE something out of it !
- karimi who doesnt shoot well, isnt all that active either.
- jabbari is active and a good passer, but leaves a lot to be desired in shooting.
- same with shojaei.
- mobaali isnt as active and adventurous and doesnt surge forward, while he has good shooting ability.
- sadeghi is totally out of form.
- navidkia if on those RARE days that he is fit, isnt a good shooter either, nor is he active in surges.
I dont see anyone in our club games either to do this well !!
so what is the problem here? when we have such a clear and recent role model to shape some of our midfielders, why dont we use it?
I do miss that bagheri ...... A LOT !
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