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    Guys it's really simple, Branko Ivankovic literally had the most talented team ever (maybe 2nd best depending on your opinion of the 98 team). The likes of Karimi, Mahdavikia, Daei, Nekoonam, Teymourian, Zandi , Hashemian at their primes etc. His result: got knocked out by China in the asian cup and managed one measly point in the WC, in arguably a MUCH EASIER group than we just had!

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      If CQ is Leo Messi. Branko is a fat kid kicking a soccer ball at the park. Comparing the two is laughable.
      "Formerly known as AliDaeiClone"

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        Branko and CQ shouldn't be in the same sentence. Branko set Team Melli back for a decade in so many ways it is surreal. I hope he never comes anywhere near TM again.


        The Branko effect for TM.

        - SPINELESSNESS: Sticking with one goalkeeper (Mirzapour) who was error-prone, and not even giving a chance to test other alternatives, and there were a few (contrast with CQ). Not altering his tactics and game plan, and keeping with the same formations/line-ups for every damn game. He just didn't want to experiment and try different players, he didn't like any chance. We had a series of very feeble performances in the 2005-early 2006 period but NOTHING was changed after them, and he had a lot more new talent at his disposal than his predecessors (remember poor Pourheidari who had a midfield of Fekri, Navazi, Halali to pick from)

        - OUTSIDE INFLUENCE: Branko let himself be influenced too much by player agents such as Reza Fazeli who was in the TM camp for the World Cup, and we all know that it affected the team spirit. He also let Daei dictate matters far too much in terms of team selection.

        - TEAM SPIRIT: Our team spirit was the worst for WC06 when players were even refusing to pass to each other, let alone speaking with each other (contrast with CQ and the tight-knit unit he has built)

        - TACTICAL NONSENSE: After finally bringing Bayern Munich's Hashemian back into the fold, he pushed him out to the wing (absolute no man's land) to accommodate a stagnant Ali Daei, who was playing 90 minutes for every game, not even subbed out for young strikers to get a chance to get some game time.

        - TROLLING: Bringing Khatibi back to TM, starting him and Enayati. Khatibi was a constant source of frustration, the worst finisher we have ever had internationally, how he had so many caps no one can explain (well, apart from Branko and Khatibi's agent at the time Fazeli probably).

        - POOR TEAM SELECTION: When we had more talented players, I never understood why Branko picked Badavi, Alavi, Kameli Mofrad, Khatibi, Sattar Zare. He had a favoured group of players who he stuck with, who were worse than a number of their peers in IPL.

        - OGHDEH - Falling out with his prized player (Mobali) when the latter refused to move to Dynamo Zagreb in 2005. At the time he was the only two-footed playmaker apart from Karimi and he was player of the year in IPL at the age of 21. He was just dropped after Branko's lajbaazi.

        - STIFLING DEVELOPMENT - We had, at the time, arguably our brightest crop of aged 18-22 youngsters who all looked very talented (Kazemian, Mobali, Borhani). They weren't given enough playing time internationally to develop and ended up dwindling, as the coach just kept playing the same people for 90 minutes regardless of how they performed (contrast with CQ)

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          Originally posted by scuderia View Post
          Guys it's really simple, Branko Ivankovic literally had the most talented team ever (maybe 2nd best depending on your opinion of the 98 team). The likes of Karimi, Mahdavikia, Daei, Nekoonam, Teymourian, Zandi , Hashemian at their primes etc. His result: got knocked out by China in the asian cup and managed one measly point in the WC, in arguably a MUCH EASIER group than we just had!
          Daei at his prime?
          I went to Sharif University. I'm a superior genetic mutation, an improvement on the existing mediocre stock.

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            Originally posted by KC McElroy View Post
            Daei at his prime?
            take deep breathes... The "prime" was not reflecting all the players. Daei was at the very end of his career. The prime was mostly for Karimi, Nekoonam, Mahdavikia, Zandi, Hashemian.

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              Originally posted by KC McElroy View Post
              Daei at his prime?
              Definitely not. Yet Branko used him as striker in WC 06 and other matches over Hash, which led to the stagnation of Iran's potential attack.

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                Originally posted by scuderia View Post
                Guys it's really simple, Branko Ivankovic literally had the most talented team ever (maybe 2nd best depending on your opinion of the 98 team). The likes of Karimi, Mahdavikia, Daei, Nekoonam, Teymourian, Zandi , Hashemian at their primes etc. His result: got knocked out by China in the asian cup and managed one measly point in the WC, in arguably a MUCH EASIER group than we just had!
                With that stacked team he couldn't even beat the only team in world cup history that we have faced that actually had a worse squad than us..

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                  Originally posted by Tehranto View Post
                  The best two managers in Iran met today - Carlos Queiroz and Winfried Schäfer

                  Tehranto! Looks like CQ wants to be the next Persepolis coach. Wink wink...
                  Keep calm and believe in Fairies and Footballers Roxanaz

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                    Originally posted by persian-eagle-13 View Post
                    The problem with Bronko is that when he was in charge of TM, he was fighting the same fights as CQ. Now he does not want to help TM, he should know better, he was there himself and had the same issues. He is very selfish. we can't forget the debacle of WC 2006 and like wuzz never came to iran and left. He had no balls to standup and discipline the team from Daei to Karimi. All the sudden he is the "professor"!!
                    Both CQ and Bronko have not been in iran about the same time. Look at the players CQ has produced vs what bronko has done.
                    Bronko inherited golden generation!! CQ is building the next generation.
                    When Bronko left, he legacy was gone with him, CQ legacy will be seen for at least 5-8 years after he leaves.
                    If I may...
                    My take on the situation is that Branko is competent but he is willing to "kenar biad" with his iranian entourage while CQ, Mr jazabeh, is more at ease with telling people to go to hell.He's not interested in talented players if they can't collaborate, maintain harmony within the group.
                    Branko was dealing with too many egos, he was also sharing power with Ali Daie from what I remember.

                    Also don't think Branko is at war with CQ. Court system, dalals and press are making the Ash reshteh.
                    Keep calm and believe in Fairies and Footballers Roxanaz

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                      I don't know why we are still comparing CQ and Branko... One has managed the likes of Real Madrid, Portugal and was assistant to Sir Alex at Man U compared to someone who manages PP, several Arab teams, and short term Croatia NT. The comparision is not even close and if anyone thinks Branko is as good or close to good as CQ, needs to immediately delete their account and never return again..

                      You ask most football experts around the world and they'll know who CQ is but if you ask them about Branko, they'll say who the fooook is that (Conor McGregor voice)

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                        I'm going to miss that fucking Bastard of Hero that CARLOS QUEIROZ was and is for IRAN. Hopefully Iran is going to rock at the Asian Cup with that Man! So that he can rightfully move on.

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                          Originally posted by DR Strangemoosh View Post
                          Branko and CQ shouldn't be in the same sentence. Branko set Team Melli back for a decade in so many ways it is surreal. I hope he never comes anywhere near TM again.
                          The Branko effect for TM.
                          - SPINELESSNESS: Sticking with one goalkeeper (Mirzapour) who was error-prone, and not even giving a chance to test other alternatives, and there were a few (contrast with CQ). Not altering his tactics and game plan, and keeping with the same formations/line-ups for every damn game. He just didn't want to experiment and try different players, he didn't like any chance. We had a series of very feeble performances in the 2005-early 2006 period but NOTHING was changed after them, and he had a lot more new talent at his disposal than his predecessors (remember poor Pourheidari who had a midfield of Fekri, Navazi, Halali to pick from)
                          - OUTSIDE INFLUENCE: Branko let himself be influenced too much by player agents such as Reza Fazeli who was in the TM camp for the World Cup, and we all know that it affected the team spirit. He also let Daei dictate matters far too much in terms of team selection.
                          - TEAM SPIRIT: Our team spirit was the worst for WC06 when players were even refusing to pass to each other, let alone speaking with each other (contrast with CQ and the tight-knit unit he has built)
                          - TACTICAL NONSENSE: After finally bringing Bayern Munich's Hashemian back into the fold, he pushed him out to the wing (absolute no man's land) to accommodate a stagnant Ali Daei, who was playing 90 minutes for every game, not even subbed out for young strikers to get a chance to get some game time.
                          - TROLLING: Bringing Khatibi back to TM, starting him and Enayati. Khatibi was a constant source of frustration, the worst finisher we have ever had internationally, how he had so many caps no one can explain (well, apart from Branko and Khatibi's agent at the time Fazeli probably).
                          - POOR TEAM SELECTION: When we had more talented players, I never understood why Branko picked Badavi, Alavi, Kameli Mofrad, Khatibi, Sattar Zare. He had a favoured group of players who he stuck with, who were worse than a number of their peers in IPL.
                          - OGHDEH - Falling out with his prized player (Mobali) when the latter refused to move to Dynamo Zagreb in 2005. At the time he was the only two-footed playmaker apart from Karimi and he was player of the year in IPL at the age of 21. He was just dropped after Branko's lajbaazi.
                          - STIFLING DEVELOPMENT - We had, at the time, arguably our brightest crop of aged 18-22 youngsters who all looked very talented (Kazemian, Mobali, Borhani). They weren't given enough playing time internationally to develop and ended up dwindling, as the coach just kept playing the same people for 90 minutes regardless of how they performed (contrast with CQ)
                          was a good post until you decided to throw Zare under the bus. Easily one of the most underrated defenders we've ever had.

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                            Originally posted by ramingeles2000 View Post
                            was a good post until you decided to throw Zare under the bus. Easily one of the most underrated defenders we've ever had.
                            Satar Zareh? He was way too erratic. Still unlucky he got injured just prior to WC06 on his richest vein of form but he made far too many mistakes for much of his career.

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                              Originally posted by naderb94 View Post
                              Schaefer > Branko
                              Makes me very happy to see CQ and Winnie together.
                              Both have passion for Iran and its people
                              What a hypocritical post.

                              Literally your team’s manager Ghalenoei taking a hit at CQ saying they should give Schaefer one of those contracts they do for CQ on live television.

                              Originally posted by Keano View Post
                              Just watched Galenoei’s post-match interview, it baffles me how in every single interview he has to bring up CQ to the table. Same goes to Karimi, Mayeli kohan and Co.
                              http://90tv.ir/video/493828/مصاحبه-ا...-سپاهان
                              Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
                              But will you mention this? No, because it does not fit your “Anti-Perspolis” agenda.

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                                tm final list is out this sunday correct?

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