How many points to get through?

[chief]

In 2014 and 2010 there were 5 teams in each group and 16 points was
enough to top the group with Iran.This year we have 6 teams in each
group and 2 more games per team so I say 20 is enough to qualify if
not win the group.

[persiangodfather]

It is quite important to beat Qatar in March, If not we will more then likely be 3rd place

[chief]

I say if we beat China, Syria and Uzbekistan at home and get a single point from
the 2 away matches we can book our tickets to Russia.

[CHaMiLLionaire]

There is no room for complacency.

Two games in March - 23rd and 28th, vs Qatar and China that could decide our fate.

Two losses, we are very much screwed, even a third place finish would be a reach.

One loss, one draw, similar situation to the above.

Two draws, still in it, but it is going to be extremely difficult to get one of the two spots.

One win, one loss, not ideal, but still in the hunt, will have to bank on other teams results.

One draw, One win, ideal situation, keeps us in the hunt and in a prime position to qualify.

Two wins, pack your bags and get your tickets to Russia.

As you can see, we cannot afford any mishap. Our boys should be fully focused.

[Bessos]

We just need to win our home matches and we will be on 20 points, which should suffice for automatic qualification.

But of course we are going to beat Qatar in Qatar too, so that means 23 points.

I will be generous to Korea and say that we aren't gonna take points from them in Seoul (but we actually will).

[Damavand]

I really don't like all this talk about tying Qatar away. If we can convincingly beat the Uzbeks away there is no reason not to beat Qatar away too.

[Z Joon]

^ If our players are in form and finish their chances we will certainly take the 3 points in Doha, no doubts

[NFL]

We have to beat everybody. Not just because we need the points, but because we can and we should.
We ARE a better team than we were 4 years ago.

Bring them on!

[ehsan singapore]

in fact playing in qatar, we can beat them there, because thier pitch is good, we also know how to play and beat them

[versusdamon]

14 points right now (Plus: best goal difference)
Still left:
China (home)
Uzbekistan (home)
South Korea (away)
Syria (home)
Worst case scenarios:
South Korea and Uzbekistan still have a game against each other, so if
- SK wins all its 4 games (22 points) and UZB wins the other three (18 points) and we lose both games against them -> we still have two games left out of which we need one win and one draw to become second
- UZB wins all its 4 games (21 points) and SK wins the other three (19 points) and we lose both games against them -> we still have two games left out of which we need two wins to become second.
- one of the two scenarios before and we lose all the other games too: let's assume Syria loses against UZB and SK but wins against China and Iran -> they have 14 points and we would be on par with them (then direct comparison or goal difference is important)
So we could still even becom fourth.
My prediction:
China is out more or less, we play them at home => win +3 (17 points)
SK, away, we are going to lose => still 17 points
About Uzbekistan and Syria I am pretty unsure, I would say 3 or 4 points out of the two games.
=> 21 or 22 points in the end. That will at least guarantee the second place.

[shayan_esteghlali]

If we beat China and Uzbekistan in our next 2 games we will be 100% qualified, we can send Kia FC to play against Korea and Syria )))

[GolfePersique]

If we beat China and Uzbekistan in our next 2 games we will be 100% qualified, we can send Kia FC to play against Korea and Syria )))

The post of the month

[elnino99]

middle case scenario:

Matchday 7: We beat China, both Korea and Uzbekistan win
Iran 17
Korea 13
Uzbekistan 12

Matchday 8: We draw Uzbekistan, Korea beats Qatar
Iran 18
Korea 16
Uzbekistan 13

Matchday 9: We lost to Korea, Uzbekistan beats China
Korea 19
Iran 18
Uzbekistan 16

Which means, last match day, even if Uzbekistan beats Korea, we will most likely only need a draw at home to Syria to qualify due to our better GD.

Does anyone know if it's gonna be GD or H-2-H in terms of same points ?

[perspolis#1]

middle case scenario:

Matchday 7: We beat China, both Korea and Uzbekistan win
Iran 17
Korea 13
Uzbekistan 12

Matchday 8: We draw Uzbekistan, Korea beats Qatar
Iran 18
Korea 16
Uzbekistan 13

Matchday 9: We lost to Korea, Uzbekistan beats China
Korea 19
Iran 18
Uzbekistan 16

Which means, last match day, even if Uzbekistan beats Korea, we will most likely only need a draw at home to Syria to qualify due to our better GD.

Does anyone know if it's gonna be GD or H-2-H in terms of same points ?

Goal difference.

As per the 2018 FIFA wiki.

1)Points (3 points for a win, 1 point for a draw, 0 points for a loss)

2)Goal difference

3)Goals scored

4)Points in matches between tied teams

5) Goal difference in matches between tied teams

6)Goals scored in matches between tied teams

7) Away goals scored in matches between tied teams (if the tie is only between two teams in home-and-away league format)

8) Fair play points
first yellow card: minus 1 point
indirect red card (second yellow card): minus 3 points
direct red card: minus 4 points
yellow card and direct red card: minus 5 points

9) Drawing of lots by the FIFA Organising Committee

[persianallstars]

defeat China, defeat Uzbekistan at home and dance baba karam with Korea away.....tamoom