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  • Guys just chill. This reminds me of when Karim went to Osasuna...

    His time will come, and I can also change my Username to like Liverpool and act as if I am a representative of the club and that I know better than all of you and (honestly Hoorad just look at what you write before you post it)
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    • Originally posted by AsOen5 View Post
      Guys just chill. This reminds me of when Karim went to Osasuna...

      His time will come, and I can also change my Username to like Liverpool and act as if I am a representative of the club and that I know better than all of you and (honestly Hoorad just look at what you write before you post it)
      What?! Your comment literally makes no sense, whatsoever. So you are using my username as a way to justify and admit your point, whilst also insulting me within the process because of the evidence I went by in my initial post? You have yet to back up your post with any evidence...

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      • Originally posted by Leicester City View Post
        Bebaksheed aghaye mohtaram, but Anthony Knockaert was a Leicester player who was sold because of how terrible he was! Now he is starting over Jahanbakhsh, whether you agree with it or not, is a different story... (Though, both Leicester and Brighton fans can agree that he is a Championship player, at best.)
        Me, you, and all Iranians else where believed he was going to take the Premiership by the scruff of the neck, the EPL fans did not however, and how right they were as they have had experiences with past top scorers coming from the Eredivise. I’ll tell you what is a fickle/rubbish, people who make excuses and try to sugar coat things by blaming Brighton, their physio, TM, Carlos Quieroz’s tactics, and anything else they find an excuse for, anything! (This is why Japan beats us 3-0, SMH)
        And no, there aren’t many players like him at Leicester... But rather better ones, whom of which are still being benched!!! (Just look at the chart I’ve posted above, I did not put it there for decor!)
        Regarding the Asian Cup, I still stand by what I said. If he has trouble against Asian teams (e.g. Iraq, Japan, etc...), what kind of rational person wouldn’t expect him to struggle to adapt to the Premier League?!?! I know it’s a sin to criticize him because he plays in the Premier Leauge, but it’s also not fair when people critique players who have actually done something at this year’s Asian Cup (e.g. Taremi, Azmoun, Torabi).
        https://twitter.com/i/status/1042675728754499585

        Huddersfield were the Championship whipping boys at the time for wingers

        https://www.fanchants.com/football-s...ony-knockaert/

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        • Jahanbakhsh's tasks at NEC and AZ Alkmaar were different to the ones he has been assigned while playing for Iran and Brighton. He is not a classic winger, that is absolute rubbish. When he was played on the right side in Holland here were his tasks:
          - Cut inside on his left foot and take long range shots or give penetrating passes (like an inverter winger such as Robben)
          - Make direct runs into the box to finish chances or pounce on mistakes (like a forward deployed on the right hand side)
          - Play in the channel and penetartive passes (like an attacking midfielder on the right hand side)

          He played all of these roles within the same position "RW" or "RM" position during his time at AZ Alkmaar. He has a good defensive work ethic as well, but it drains his offensive proficiency.
          One of the very few good things about CQ leaving Iran is that maybe the new coach will try to play a system that will suit Jahanbakhsh's strengths. As for Brighton, they seem to have a fairly decent record with recruitment, maybe they have plans to adjust things in their system that we don't know about. Otherwise, I don't see how they will extract the best out of Jahanbakhsh's talent with their current formation and style. He is not a player who is at his best dribbling from deep like Knockheart, he's more of a one-touch combination player in those deeper positions. He is actually at his worst when he is instructed to play as a classic wide player, you can see that in his performances for Iran and Brighton; it doesn't matter what the level of the competition is.
          There is a lot more nuance to football than what online stat aggregators can show.

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          • Maybe, its possible that players play differently based on the team that they are in and thats what the struggle is about. Not the teams they play. I'm sure Jahanbakhsh will have some moments this season. It is always difficult for a flying winger to adjust to being essentially another RWB/RM overlapping with Montoya(who pushes forward A LOT) in a defensive Brighton system.

            Chelsea struggled with Hazard/Willian during their park the bus phase because of how deep they would get and how it was hard to get them involved in attacks. I don't expect Jahanbakhsh to have an easier time adjusting. This isn't FIFA where you can get away with plugging players in unfamiliar positions.

            But don't take opponent strength as the metric. Jahanbakhsh was 19 and in a counter attack flying system he was crossing out Zabaleta and creating chances. Similarly, Son struggled in the Asian cup, that doesn't make him any less of an absolute monster in the EPL.

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            • Originally posted by Bandar Hamal View Post
              Jahanbakhsh's tasks at NEC and AZ Alkmaar were different to the ones he has been assigned while playing for Iran and Brighton. He is not a classic winger, that is absolute rubbish. When he was played on the right side in Holland here were his tasks:

              - Cut inside on his left foot and take long range shots or give penetrating passes (like an inverter winger such as Robben)
              - Make direct runs into the box to finish chances or pounce on mistakes (like a forward deployed on the right hand side)
              - Play in the channel and penetartive passes (like an attacking midfielder on the right hand side)

              He played all of these roles within the same position "RW" or "RM" position during his time at AZ Alkmaar. He has a good defensive work ethic as well, but it drains his offensive proficiency.
              One of the very few good things about CQ leaving Iran is that maybe the new coach will try to play a system that will suit Jahanbakhsh's strengths. As for Brighton, they seem to have a fairly decent record with recruitment, maybe they have plans to adjust things in their system that we don't know about. Otherwise, I don't see how they will extract the best out of Jahanbakhsh's talent with their current formation and style. He is not a player who is at his best dribbling from deep like Knockheart, he's more of a one-touch combination player in those deeper positions. He is actually at his worst when he is instructed to play as a wide player, you can see that in his performances for Iran and Brighton; it doesn't matter what the level of the competition is.

              There is a lot more nuance to football than what online stat aggregators can show.
              Finally someone who understands!!


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              • Sorry it was late and I was tired and my response was in a whole to how negative people can be towards our players and sometimes really personal about them. Look I don’t think that every player is amazing and every player plays great every game , yes they can improve. But give them a chance to improve and settle and then talk about it.
                I use Sardar as an example and even Taremi, both on here were slated by a lot for their performances and how they shouldn’t be in an Iran shirt but then after the Asian Cup the same people talk about them in a positive way. I know opinions can change but it’s frustrating, these are people we are talking about at the end of the day just trying their best and so I congratulate Alireza because he has got to play in the Premier League. That is an achievement in itself for someone who came from a country with such poor investment in its players.

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                • Originally posted by Bandar Hamal View Post
                  Jahanbakhsh's tasks at NEC and AZ Alkmaar were different to the ones he has been assigned while playing for Iran and Brighton. He is not a classic winger, that is absolute rubbish. When he was played on the right side in Holland here were his tasks:
                  - Cut inside on his left foot and take long range shots or give penetrating passes (like an inverter winger such as Robben)
                  - Make direct runs into the box to finish chances or pounce on mistakes (like a forward deployed on the right hand side)
                  - Play in the channel and penetartive passes (like an attacking midfielder on the right hand side)
                  He played all of these roles within the same position "RW" or "RM" position during his time at AZ Alkmaar. He has a good defensive work ethic as well, but it drains his offensive proficiency.
                  One of the very few good things about CQ leaving Iran is that maybe the new coach will try to play a system that will suit Jahanbakhsh's strengths. As for Brighton, they seem to have a fairly decent record with recruitment, maybe they have plans to adjust things in their system that we don't know about. Otherwise, I don't see how they will extract the best out of Jahanbakhsh's talent with their current formation and style. He is not a player who is at his best dribbling from deep like Knockheart, he's more of a one-touch combination player in those deeper positions. He is actually at his worst when he is instructed to play as a wide player, you can see that in his performances for Iran and Brighton; it doesn't matter what the level of the competition is.
                  There is a lot more nuance to football than what online stat aggregators can show.
                  Looks like a second striker to me. Not so much as a playmaker.

                  Keeper
                  RB CH CH LB
                  DM DM
                  Playmaker
                  Second Striker
                  False number 9 : Winger

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                  • Bad timing for WBA vs BHA game as Barcelona vs Real Madrid is at the same time, not to mention Everton vs Man. City

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                    • Originally posted by Perseus View Post
                      Looks like a second striker to me. Not so much as a playmaker.
                      He's neither. If you want an official title you can call him a Wide Forward, but not every player has characteristics that fit neatly into packages. Jahanbakhsh can't run the game like a playmaker, nor does he try to, but he does have a final ball, that's all I was pointing out. He demonstrated that plenty in Holland. I don't think he'll function much better in the Brighton system as a second striker either.

                      Edit: BTW when I wrote "He is actually at his worst when he is instructed to play as a wide player..." I meant classic wide player, like a ball-carrier that hugs the line and delivers good crosses.
                      His idol is Mehdi Mahdavikia, funnily enough, who was the absolute textbook example of a winger with fantastic crossing ability and dribbling skills. To compare them, Mahdivikia scored important goals for Iran, but was much more heralded for his assists and his locamotive industry; chugging up and down the pitch. He was the top assist-giver in the Bundesliga one season, but he said that scoring gave him the most pleasure. Jahanbakhsh has not scored many important goals for Iran, he was the top scorer for both of his teams in Holland, and in the season when he became the top scorer in the country he said that he prefers assists to goals. It's an odd but satisfying pair; they only share demeanor, professionalism, and ambition.

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                      • Originally posted by Bandar Hamal View Post
                        He's neither. If you want an official title you can call him a Wide Forward, but not every player has every characteristic that fits neatly a package. Jahanbakhsh can't run the game like a playmaker, nor does he try to, but he does have a final ball, that's all I was pointing out. He demonstrated that plenty in Holland. I don't think he'll function much better in the Brighton system as a second striker.
                        Edit: BTW when I wrote "He is actually at his worst when he is instructed to play as a wide player..." I meant classic wide player, like a ball-carrier that hugs the line and delivers good crosses.
                        His idol is Mahdivikia, funnily enough, who was the absolute textbook example of a winger with fantastic crossing ability and dribbling skills. Mahdivikia scored important goals for Iran, he was more heralded for his endless stamina and his assists. He was the top assist-givver in the Bundesliga one year but he said that scoring gave him the most pleasure. Jahanbakhsh has not scored many important goals for Iran, he was the top scorer for both of his teams in Holland, and has said that he prefers assists to goals. It's an odd but satisfying pair; they only share demeanor, professionalism, and ambition.
                        It's the inverted wingers that are not working for Brighton

                        Keeper
                        RB CH CH LB
                        DM DM
                        Playmaker
                        Winger Winger
                        Striker

                        or variants thereof

                        down mainly because Knockaert and Solly March are both poor on their weak foot and neither are good enough at shooting/finishing to make up for it. Or quick or tricky enough to cause the opposing specialised full backs trouble from open play. The opposition shepherd the wingers on to their weaker foot mucking up delivery into the final third: shots, key passes and crosses.

                        Erediversie allows wingers far too much room and hardly compares to the Championship. WBA match should be a good opportunuity for Jahanbakhsh.

                        If I was money bags, I would've tended to try and get the current wingers to use their weaker feet and save £17 million.

                        Out and out touchline wingers are redundant in modern football, the role given to wing-backs. Otherwise it is like playing with ten men: the winger is not involved in the game, the opposition cut out his supply line.

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                        • Originally posted by Bandar Hamal View Post
                          Jahanbakhsh's tasks at NEC and AZ Alkmaar were different to the ones he has been assigned while playing for Iran and Brighton. He is not a classic winger, that is absolute rubbish. When he was played on the right side in Holland here were his tasks:
                          - Cut inside on his left foot and take long range shots or give penetrating passes (like an inverter winger such as Robben)
                          - Make direct runs into the box to finish chances or pounce on mistakes (like a forward deployed on the right hand side)
                          - Play in the channel and penetartive passes (like an attacking midfielder on the right hand side)

                          He played all of these roles within the same position "RW" or "RM" position during his time at AZ Alkmaar. He has a good defensive work ethic as well, but it drains his offensive proficiency.
                          One of the very few good things about CQ leaving Iran is that maybe the new coach will try to play a system that will suit Jahanbakhsh's strengths. As for Brighton, they seem to have a fairly decent record with recruitment, maybe they have plans to adjust things in their system that we don't know about. Otherwise, I don't see how they will extract the best out of Jahanbakhsh's talent with their current formation and style. He is not a player who is at his best dribbling from deep like Knockheart, he's more of a one-touch combination player in those deeper positions. He is actually at his worst when he is instructed to play as a classic wide player, you can see that in his performances for Iran and Brighton; it doesn't matter what the level of the competition is.
                          There is a lot more nuance to football than what online stat aggregators can show.
                          Golden post of this thread honestly. I think Hughton is a very wise manager and I do think that Brighton is looking to gradually alter its system in order to become a more established Premier League team. Goes without saying that their weakness is mostly in the attacking third.

                          You can survive relegation with a sturdy defense but to be a mid table team you need offensive capabilities that can threaten any of the other 19 teams. Most of those that you see from position 7-11 (wolves, west ham, leicester) absolutely provide that. But you can't really get even 50% attacking efficiency when you play a deeper block; most goals from Brighton in this system have come either from Murray who is a classic poacher or from Dunk/Duffy combo off of set-pieces. I think Hughton realizes this but knows that altering the system will take time and careful signings/integration. At least that's what I hope. In this case, we might see Jahanbakhsh over time shift into a position that suits his strengths more.

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                          • There is another wiki position: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Playmaker#Nine_and_a_half It could be called the Eden Hazard role?

                            Brighton have not been nearly so good from open play this season, both in attack and defence. 3 points better off is put down to a massive improvement in set pieces, attack and defence.

                            Why is this? The injury to playmaker Pascal Groß 2 goals 2 assists this season cf. 7 goals, 8 assists is quite a lot of the reason. The other main assisters last season were Stephens, Pröpper, Izquierdo.

                            This season it is Knockaert and Solly March with Stephens, Pröpper, Izquierdo not providing any.
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                            As I predicted, the slight changes this season would not improve the attack, but just make the defence worse.

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                            • ARJ is our version of Thomas Mueller.
                              This video explains Muellers unique style of play that I would argue suits ARJ.


                              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdqV-JrWAJE
                              "History is a set of lies that people have agreed upon,"

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                              • Originally posted by Bandar Hamal View Post
                                Jahanbakhsh's tasks at NEC and AZ Alkmaar were different to the ones he has been assigned while playing for Iran and Brighton. He is not a classic winger, that is absolute rubbish. When he was played on the right side in Holland here were his tasks:
                                - Cut inside on his left foot and take long range shots or give penetrating passes (like an inverter winger such as Robben)
                                - Make direct runs into the box to finish chances or pounce on mistakes (like a forward deployed on the right hand side)
                                - Play in the channel and penetartive passes (like an attacking midfielder on the right hand side)

                                He played all of these roles within the same position "RW" or "RM" position during his time at AZ Alkmaar. He has a good defensive work ethic as well, but it drains his offensive proficiency.
                                One of the very few good things about CQ leaving Iran is that maybe the new coach will try to play a system that will suit Jahanbakhsh's strengths. As for Brighton, they seem to have a fairly decent record with recruitment, maybe they have plans to adjust things in their system that we don't know about. Otherwise, I don't see how they will extract the best out of Jahanbakhsh's talent with their current formation and style. He is not a player who is at his best dribbling from deep like Knockheart, he's more of a one-touch combination player in those deeper positions. He is actually at his worst when he is instructed to play as a classic wide player, you can see that in his performances for Iran and Brighton; it doesn't matter what the level of the competition is.
                                There is a lot more nuance to football than what online stat aggregators can show.
                                This is ridiculous! Both Brighton and TM don’t use the same TACTIC against every team! If the team is weaker they are definitely going to be playing with a more attacking formation. These are once again excuses!

                                One of the good things about CQ leaving??? If anything, IT WILL BE WORSE!!! Under him we had possession based football and Jahanbakhsh was still losing the ball against Japan. I can’t count the number of times Rezaeian had to track back so deep because of his give aways! These are individual skills, something you can blame on a team, Carlos Quieroz, tactics, etc... Gholizadeh will bench Jahanbakhsh and start over him for TM.

                                If Jahanbakhsh is good we have to say he is good, if Jahanbakhsh is bad we still have to say he is good! This is absolutely ridiculous! It’s not like that at all for the other players, but it is for him all because he plays for EPL regardless if he actually plays well or not!

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