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  • Originally posted by Karimi 8 View Post
    Stupid decision. Should have gone to Europe he better hope the opportunity comes again. (Coming from a Persepolis fan)
    It was from a bad team in the Turkish Super Lig. I am 100% sure Persepolis is a better team than them with better players.

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    • Originally posted by irani8perspolis View Post
      It was from a bad team in the Turkish Super Lig. I am 100% sure Persepolis is a better team than them with better players.
      Was better to play against Galatasaray, Fenerbahçe and Besiktas than Sepahan, SS or else. These players are so dumb.
      He really thinks Barcelona will buy him after seeing his marvellous cross against Turkmenistan and guam?

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      • Originally posted by irani8perspolis View Post
        It was from a bad team in the Turkish Super Lig. I am 100% sure Persepolis is a better team than them with better players.
        Foolad beat them 3-0 in a pre-season game.

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        • Originally posted by 04041374 View Post
          Foolad beat them 3-0 in a pre-season game.
          Preseason means sh1it. One year, PSG beat a strong Valencia 3/0 in preseason and finished 16th of the league!

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          • Originally posted by PSGman#19 View Post
            Preseason means sh1it. One year, PSG beat a strong Valencia 3/0 in preseason and finished 16th of the league!
            Both Foolad and Eskisehirspor fight against relegation in their respected leagues. I didn't say, that Foolad are better, but our clubs are capable of beating Turkish clubs. Perspolis got a draw against Genclerbirligi and Sepahan won against Mersin Idman Yurdu.

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            • Getting to play Galatasaray, Fenerbace and Besiktas twice a year shouldn't determine where you go for a season.

              He is playing and training under Branko, day in and day out, which is a valuable experience in itself.

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              • well 2 be fair u are wayyy more likely to get to better leagues from turkey than from iran. Just look at everybodys favorite player on this site Ali Adnan

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                • Originally posted by inarsenewetrust View Post
                  well 2 be fair u are wayyy more likely to get to better leagues from turkey than from iran. Just look at everybodys favorite player on this site Ali Adnan
                  Not a good example since he was a bench warmer over there last season. But in general I agree

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                  • Originally posted by ali alipour View Post
                    Not a good example since he was a bench warmer over there last season. But in general I agree
                    even more of a good example because a bench warmer of a crappy team in turkey is now a starter for a respectable serie A side, udinese.

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                    • Originally posted by inarsenewetrust View Post
                      even more of a good example because a bench warmer of a crappy team in turkey is now a starter for a respectable serie A side, udinese.
                      No cuz he wasn't picked up by them because of his play last season. And looking at the stats of their last few games it seems he's mostly a bench player now. But either way i agree with going to a smaller euro league giving a player a better chance to go to a top league since there's more exposure.

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                      • do we have any players in the top 5 leagues? no. Why? because are players are to comfortable in the environment of IPL and think it beneath them to go and play in smaller european leagues for a few years before getting a move to the bigger leagues. Although recently players like Jahabkhsh, Saeid, Sardar, Hajsafi have shown the required desire to rlly go and try to do something in europe. Players like Ashe were already there b4. There are countless players who at this stage would have been in big european leagues if they showed more guts and left iran earlier. We are infinitely better than teams like Iraq, and we are on par with teams like S. Korea, Japan, Australia. While it is true that they have better leagues, more visibility for their players than us, Iranian players still have opportunities to leave and many reject it bc they think they are too good for european starter teams. hopefully this is a trend that is being reversed. For ex. players like the mohammadi brothers need to leave iran right now to have a chance at real success in europe...where there obvious talents SHOULD and COULD be showcased

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                        • Originally posted by GoIran
                          Btw the number of Japanese players in the top 5 leagues is getting ridiculous nowadays.

                          Takashi Inui (Eibar/ESP)
                          Genki Haraguchi (Hertha BSC/GER)
                          Makoto Hasebe (Eintracht Frankfurt/GER)
                          Shinji Kagawa (Borussia Dortmund/GER)
                          Hiroshi Kiyotake (Hannover 96/GER)
                          Hiroki Sakai (Hannover 96/GER)
                          Yoshinori Muto (Mainz 05/GER)
                          Kazuki Nagasawa (1. FC Köln/GER)
                          Yuya Osako (1. FC Köln/GER)
                          Gotoku Sakai (Hamburger SV/GER)
                          Shinji Okazaki (Leicester City/ENG)
                          Maya Yoshida (Southampton/ENG)
                          Keisuke Honda (AC Milan/ITA)
                          Yuto Nagatomo (Inter Milan/ITA)

                          Considering even an Iraqi guy is a starter in Serie A and we outclassed Japan last month, if our players get proper chances, do you think they can be as successful as Japanese players in the top 5 leagues? Kagawa, Nagatomo and Honda play regularly for elite teams (Dortmund, Inter and Milan) and there are 3 Jap players in the goal and assist table in Bundesliga. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015%E...son_statistics Can our players do the same thing? Is CQ the reason TM is on par with the likes of Japan, Korea and Australia?
                          What do you personally think? When you see Iran playing vs Japan and Korea, do you think players like Amiri, Ghafouri, Torabi, Mohammadi etc... are worse than all these random Asian players in the BL? You may have seen Hajsafi play vs Haraguchi's team Hertha Berlin, was the latter better than Ehsan? Are our defenders worse than Korean and Japanese defenders?

                          Don't look too much into this, it doesn't reveal anything imo, our players are no less than these dudes and they regularly proved it on the pitch vs various teams filled with top league players. Our time will come in 3-4 years when few of our talents like Azmoun & JB become famous in top leagues and our players will become marketable again, probably not to the extent of players from Korea and Japan unfortunately, but much more than now

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                          • I still find it very interesting to this day that players from Asia tend to be successful in German soccer. Does anyone know why so many Korean Iranian and Japanese players are having more success in the bundesliga ?


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                            • مرخصی کی روش ۵۰ روزه است
                              زمان مرخصی سرمربی تیم ملی فوتبال کشورمان از سوی کفاشیان اعلام شد.

                              CQ left Iran last night. He will be away for 50 days.


                              او برای معالجه رفته است و حدود یک ماه و 20 روز مرخصی است و از همانجا کارش را برای قطر آغاز می کند.
                              کی روش برای دیدن بازی تیم ملی امید به قطر می رود.
                              او قطعا نظر داشت که اردویی در دی ماه بگذارد که به تفاهم رسیدیم که برگزار نکنیم زیرا 70 درصد بازیکنان تیمش را نداشت


                              .



                              کفاشیان:

                              جا مهم نیست، روح کی روش در ایران است!








                              John 4:13
                              Hereby know we that we dwell in him, and he in us, because he hath given us of his Spirit.

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                              • Originally posted by GoIran
                                Btw the number of Japanese players in the top 5 leagues is getting ridiculous nowadays.

                                Takashi Inui (Eibar/ESP)
                                Genki Haraguchi (Hertha BSC/GER)
                                Makoto Hasebe (Eintracht Frankfurt/GER)
                                Shinji Kagawa (Borussia Dortmund/GER)
                                Hiroshi Kiyotake (Hannover 96/GER)
                                Hiroki Sakai (Hannover 96/GER)
                                Yoshinori Muto (Mainz 05/GER)
                                Kazuki Nagasawa (1. FC Köln/GER)
                                Yuya Osako (1. FC Köln/GER)
                                Gotoku Sakai (Hamburger SV/GER)
                                Shinji Okazaki (Leicester City/ENG)
                                Maya Yoshida (Southampton/ENG)
                                Keisuke Honda (AC Milan/ITA)
                                Yuto Nagatomo (Inter Milan/ITA)

                                Considering even an Iraqi guy is a starter in Serie A and we outclassed Japan last month, if our players get proper chances, do you think they can be as successful as Japanese players in the top 5 leagues? Kagawa, Nagatomo and Honda play regularly for elite teams (Dortmund, Inter and Milan) and there are 3 Jap players in the goal and assist table in Bundesliga. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015%E...son_statistics Can our players do the same thing? Is CQ the reason TM is on par with the likes of Japan, Korea and Australia?
                                Iranian players will never reach that level because they never give europe a shot. Instant reward for relatively doing nothing sounds enticing to them.

                                Unfortunately there is just no respect left for these Iranian players. This is not a 'cheapshot' at them, but they seem to have no aspirations. I wonder who it would take to change this mentality that iranian players currently have.

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