What shd be IFF's TOPMOST priority, TM or CLUBS ?

[Doctor DOOM]

NOTE: GIVEN PRESENT CIRCUMSTANCES OF TM AND CLUB SEASON.
this is not some GENERIC question. it is specifically pointed at TM's upcoming games and club season's last weeks.



Shd the IFF make the decision based on the good of TM or Clubs.

Coz at this moment, they can not find a solution that benefits BOTH !
They can either postpone the season’s final 3 weeks to the other side of TM’s WCQ’s, thus causing a gap of 40 days in the club season. And risk the ire and anger of club owners and management.
Or
They can pack the last 6-7 weeks of club season to such density that clubs would have 2 games per week. And we’re not talking about one or two weeks like this. It is the last 6-7 games ! and run the risk of en-mass injuries and severe fatigue ( much like what hit us at WC 06 ) on the players.


So you see there’s no easy decision. But IFF has to make a decision and it is bound to hurt one side more than the other.
Now, which side shd they keep at heart?
Which side shd be their TOPMOST priority ?

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and plz refrain from comparisons with european clubs, coz if you're connected to REALITY, you'd know we are NOT at that level of organization, professionalism or fitness. so it is utterly useless comparing what europeans do in such situations.

[Adesor Vafaseya]

GOOD THREAD!

I voted CLUBS are most priority! Simply because IMO the basis of our football needs to be fixed and that starts at CLUB level.

a stronger IPL, with facilities supports the quality of TM
facilities such as:

- Good Training Ground, GYM
- Good medical, and physiotherpeutical facilities
- Youth Porgramme WITH exclusive youth training grounds
- Club Stadiums (not neccessary, but preferable)
- Summer Coaching Classes for IPL assisstant coaches, Goalkeeper coaches etc...

to achive this IFF and Tarbiayat Badani can do the following:

- Finacial aid, in terms of goverment Bonds, payable back to IFF/Government with a maturity date of 5-10 years, that would give the clubs enough chance to get a return out of the aids (including failure clauses that need to be discussed between the clubs and IFF)

If the beasement of IPL is fixed then the TM would be stronger. Without a strong league we will have the same sort of TM that we always had... "a seasonal team" strong and weak.... winning one game, failing the other etc etc...

TM will be the same for the next years as it was in the last years UPs and DOWNs, no matter who caoches it
The basement lies whithin IPL, and that needs to be fixed !

[hadi_ak]

I say TM but I will vote for the clubs for a sole reason. It is these clubs who are producing these players to play for Team Mali so I think that their position should not be overlooked. We are starting to see clubs in Iran making the transition from semi-pro to professional teams like Sepahan, Saipa are leading by example ……

I think until the time that we bring up our players in cotton wool we will not be successful. At the end of the day even if TM makes it to the world cup they have to play a game every 3 or 4 days so why can’t the players start practicing this from right now???? when are these players going to learn to be professional????

[Ala]

this poll assumes that one is more important than the other.
in fact, they are both important and there is a place in the middle where both must meet.
TM planning should not destroy the league and league planning should not destroy TM.

Leagues (IPL and Azadegan) should be run by the clubs (Football Union)
and TM is run by IFF. IFF should not interfere in the operation of the leagues.

It is the negotiations between the clubs and IFF that should determine our football schedule.
At least this is how things are done in the more advanced footballing nations and we must follow same.

[Doctor DOOM]

adesy jan, I really didnt see a need to "spell things out" for ppl.
for them to see this is directed at the SPECIFIC CIRCUMSTANCES WE ARE IN RIGHT NOW w regard to TM's games and club season.
I did NOT think ppl would take it as a GENERIC & GENERAL question that applies to all situations !!

really, did I have to spell it out?
wasnt the main text enough to convey the purpose of the thread ?

did anyone even READ it before voting ?


extremely disappointed at the level of attention by our members !!!!!!

[Adesor Vafaseya]

adesy jan, I really didnt see a need to "spell things out" for ppl.
for them to see this is directed at the SPECIFIC CIRCUMSTANCES WE ARE IN RIGHT NOW w regard to TM's games and club season.
I did NOT think ppl would take it as a GENERIC & GENERAL question that applies to all situations !!

really, did I have to spell it out?
wasnt the main text enough to convey the purpose of the thread ?

did anyone even READ it before voting ?


extremely disappointed at the level of attention by our members !!!!!!

DD I am sorry but did you EDIT your post after you first wrote it?

Cause I see you just changed the first post... if you are referring to circumstances now, then my vote would go to TM!

[RahmanRezai]

TM upcoming games are much more important than any IPL games right now IMO.

[Doctor DOOM]

DD I am sorry but did you EDIT your post after you first wrote it?
Cause I see you just changed the first post... if you are referring to circumstances now, then my vote would go to TM!

I added (only) the note becoz I saw you guys DIDNT BOTHER TO READ THE MAIN TEXT !!!
if you had READ the text before voting, you'd have known I'm NOT inquiring about the general policy of a football federation at any given time or situation.
it was situation-specific .... AS EXPLAINED IN THE TEXT !!!!

[Adesor Vafaseya]

I added (only) the note becoz I saw you guys DIDNT BOTHER TO READ THE MAIN TEXT !!!
if you had READ the text before voting, you'd have known I'm NOT inquiring about the general policy of a football federation at any given time or situation.
it was situation-specific .... AS EXPLAINED IN THE TEXT !!!!

I actualy read the main text before voting but guess I misunderstood you or read it with half closed eyes
(fyi - I am not in the office today, I have a fever staying home recovering, at least tyring to....... So I have the perfect excuse for having not read the thread carefully )

[Rumi]

good clubs = good TM

easy