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    Quote Originally Posted by Sepehr9 View Post
    I'd personally prefer every 2 year but that the Asian Cup. Africa Cup, Euro Cup etc be abolished. I much rather prefer TM competes with countries from Africa, Europe, South America etc in tournaments than with Asian countries. We would still compete with Asian countries in order to qualify ofcourse. It would be much better for Iranian football, take us to a higher level. Everybody knows that competing with better opponents improves your level.

    I dont understand why some of you dis Asia cup. especially when you all say we scrap asia cup for the WC ... where we usually play 3 games and go home!!!
    Being the continental champion is a big deal.
    aside from rise in ranking, it's the TITLE that carries a lot of prestige too.
    being the 4 time or 5 time champion IS a big deal.


    at least for ME, the title weighs heavily since we have struggled to advance from WC group stage or even if we do, it'd be maximum Pre-quarters.
    I can understand teams like Italy, brazil, germany .... focus on the WC as they vie for the title. And they might take it slightly easy for their continental cups.

    But teams like us who (lets be honest) have NO HOPE of reaching decent levels like Semifinalists in the WC, can look for titles and trophies in their own continents at least

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor DOOM View Post
    I dont understand why some of you dis Asia cup. especially when you all say we scrap asia cup for the WC ... where we usually play 3 games and go home!!!
    Being the continental champion is a big deal.
    aside from rise in ranking, it's the TITLE that carries a lot of prestige too.
    being the 4 time or 5 time champion IS a big deal.
    at least for ME, the title weighs heavily since we have struggled to advance from WC group stage or even if we do, it'd be maximum Pre-quarters.
    I can understand teams like Italy, brazil, germany .... focus on the WC as they vie for the title. And they might take it slightly easy for their continental cups.
    But teams like us who (lets be honest) have NO HOPE of reaching decent levels like Semifinalists in the WC, can look for titles and trophies in their own continents at least
    IMO Continental title has few prestige and very few importance. I rather see Iran go to second round, quarter final or semi final of WC than winning every asian cup.
    Qatar won AC, iraq won AC, did that improve their level and prestige? No! Japan won asian cup but their level and prestige came from their performance at WC. SK didn't win AC recently but their level & prestige came grom their performance at WC.

    The only importance I saw from Asian cup is the qualification for Confederation Cup (could have help our lack of friendlies). But now the confed cup doesn't exist anymore and the asian cup is now full of additional weak teams.

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    ^ But how are those two related? As if we would advance to 2nd round only if we omit asia cup tournaments!!!

    The prestige of continental cup for a lot of fans is high enough. But that being there or not, does NOT guarantee advancing to 2nd round of WC. How did you connect the two??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor DOOM View Post
    ^ But how are those two related? As if we would advance to 2nd round only if we omit asia cup tournaments!!!
    The prestige of continental cup for a lot of fans is high enough. But that being there or not, does NOT guarantee advancing to 2nd round of WC. How did you connect the two??
    I am not connecting the two, I just say asian cup is minor, noting it didn't help iraq to be even among the best asian teams, let alone reach the next level. It will be the same with Qatar, even if qatar has cash and $$ to develop.
    Of course asian fans will be happy with his team winning the cup but that's it.

    Iran wouldn't t have more legionnaires, more friendly request, won't suddenly get international prestige and reach the next level in case they won Asian cup

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor DOOM View Post
    I dont understand why some of you dis Asia cup. especially when you all say we scrap asia cup for the WC ... where we usually play 3 games and go home!!!
    Being the continental champion is a big deal.
    aside from rise in ranking, it's the TITLE that carries a lot of prestige too.
    being the 4 time or 5 time champion IS a big deal.
    at least for ME, the title weighs heavily since we have struggled to advance from WC group stage or even if we do, it'd be maximum Pre-quarters.
    I can understand teams like Italy, brazil, germany .... focus on the WC as they vie for the title. And they might take it slightly easy for their continental cups.
    But teams like us who (lets be honest) have NO HOPE of reaching decent levels like Semifinalists in the WC, can look for titles and trophies in their own continents at least
    I'm not dissing the Asian Cup, i'm just saying that i find it more valuable to play three games at a world cup (higher level, gain more valuable experience) than even playing the final of an Asian Cup.

    I rather TM plays Spain, Argentina, Portugal, Germany, Nigeria and co every 2 years instead of every 4 years. I honestly believe it would be better for Iranian football even if TM would not qualify for the second round in a 100 years. The fact that Iran would be competing with the likes of South Korea, Saudi, Japan and other Asian countries to book a spot for the world cup is enough, the Asian Cup does not add anything of value in my opinion. Furthermore, the world cup should consist of 32 countries to keep the level high.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sepehr9 View Post
    I'm not dissing the Asian Cup, i'm just saying that i find it more valuable to play three games at a world cup (higher level, gain more valuable experience) than even playing the final of an Asian Cup.

    I rather TM plays Spain, Argentina, Portugal, Germany, Nigeria and co every 2 years instead of every 4 years. I honestly believe it would be better for Iranian football even if TM would not qualify for the second round in a 100 years. The fact that Iran would be competing with the likes of South Korea, Saudi, Japan and other Asian countries to book a spot for the world cup is enough, the Asian Cup does not add anything of value in my opinion. Furthermore, the world cup should consist of 32 countries to keep the level high.
    Also with only 5 wc, we never play brazil, France, england, Italy belgium but played twice portugal.
    France often get grouped with Switzerland or Denmark.
    Argentina and Nigeria too.

    Imagine waiting 4 years to play the same teams, specially for a team like Iran

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    They're just ruining it. it's all about the money

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    Quote Originally Posted by PSGman#19 View Post
    I am not connecting the two, I just say asian cup is minor, noting it didn't help iraq to be even among the best asian teams, let alone reach the next level. It will be the same with Qatar, even if qatar has cash and $$ to develop.
    Of course asian fans will be happy with his team winning the cup but that's it.
    Iran wouldn't t have more legionnaires, more friendly request, won't suddenly get international prestige and reach the next level in case they won Asian cup

    Even if you discount the value of the title (and yes, I'm speaking as an asian fan, for whom "title of best in asia" does matter), it was YOU who actually answered this when you reminded us of the intercontinental, confederations cup. A MINI WC.
    That's one venue where we could meet top 10 teams.



    and to answer Sepehr:
    Nobody can prove having an Asia cup tourney will have any impact on a team's chances of advancing to the next round in the WC.
    Why do we see this "advance to II stage" being brought up here?
    If anything, Asia cup can provide decent int'l match ups for us.



    besides, again, nobody said asia cup stands in the way of having WC's every 2 years.
    It's the loss of prestige, the value, the novelty of the WC's .
    Asia cups have NOTHING to do with it , as they can serve as WCQ's. so plz, let us dissociate the two issues here.

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