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    Yahya was 100% the right choice. Idk what grave they looked in to find Skocic. It just doesn’t make sense. I mean Afshin Ghotbi won league then became TM coach. Ali Daei won league, then coach. Despite their eventual results, those made sense at the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Philosophy_King View Post
    CQ achievements with TM are unmatched. But even with him we lacked a proper plan for our attacking and passing game. 'We mostly relied on long balls and the abilities of Taremi and Azmoun, even under CQ. I think Renard would be the perfect man to take over the Team CQ had built and implement some proper attacking football. Without that i don't see us progressing from the group-stage in WC.
    We have been over this at nauseum. His record is below many former TM coaches. To put it simply he has a 60% winning percentage with TEAM MELLI IN ASIA which is nothing to be happy about and won 0 trophies in 8 years at the helm and did not advance from group stage or make an Asian Cup final which of course circles back to his measly 60% win percentage.

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    How about Dick Advocat after he gets fired from Iraq? Can you imagine what a Dick Advocating for TM in IFF will be like?!! The media will go NUTS!!

    On a serious note, I cannot follow the logic here:

    If Bagheri (and/or Vahid) is the real coach, should he not be blamed for the game (if we think it was a horrible game)?

    If Skocic is the coach but delegates to Bagheri and that is the reason for the 10-1-0, should Skocic not get the credit for giving Bagheri the leeway to achieve good results? I mean that is the hallmark of a good leader, hire good people and let them perform.

    If 10-1-0 is not really that great a record, can we point to any other period of TM that achieved equal or better results?

    If the results are because of the team CQ left behind and the coach has not effect, and we are winning because of individual talent, then why did Wilmooch flop with the same team?

    Yes, I also thought we should win this game. I thought Korea was on the ropes and with a more aggressive subbing, we could have won the game. I also thought Samanand/or Ghedi/Torabi should have been introduced into the game with at least 20-25 minutes left in the game. BUT, I have never been a professional coach and I am not going to second guess the guy with his record in TM.

    Whatever he is doing, be it delegating to Karim/Vahid, or letting his players do whatever they like, or doing a Faal Hafez for his line up, I am not going to argue until he starts failing. Remember we are topping the group and the road to qualification seems very smooth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor DOOM View Post
    No.
    I'm very sure it isnt the case.
    otherwise to make this point, there are bigger names he can do this to.

    besides I highly doubt Ebrahimi is in any state to be included.
    when he truly DESERVED to be part of TM, he was passed over. Today? I'm afraid he isnt.

    Ghoddos' time WILL come.
    perhaps in the next game.
    definitely after locking in the qualification.
    Benching biggest name could cost him results

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    Wow....The guy has won 10 of the last 11 matches and tied against our supposedly biggest opponent. We top the chart, conceded only one goal this stage of qualification AND some of you are asking for his head.
    Even though we lacked pace with a lot of turnovers in the 1st half, we had a very solid 2nd half and SK was lucky to concede only one goal. If one of the balls that hit the post had gone in, we would be all posting praises of the coach. CQ instilled discipline, teamwork and good work ethics in TM, Skocic, seem to have preserved those qualities and adds a more attacking mindset- I like that. I would have liked to see Qodous (sp??) involved too, but can't really 2nd guess the coaching staff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tooleh khers View Post
    We have been over this at nauseum. His record is below many former TM coaches. To put it simply he has a 60% winning percentage with TEAM MELLI IN ASIA which is nothing to be happy about and won 0 trophies in 8 years at the helm and did not advance from group stage or make an Asian Cup final which of course circles back to his measly 60% win percentage.

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    Winning percentage huh? You prefer Daei’s extra 2.5% that came with a bending over by Saudi at Azadi? Or is losing points at home to South Korea your thing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tooleh khers View Post
    We have been over this at nauseum. His record is below many former TM coaches. To put it simply he has a 60% winning percentage with TEAM MELLI IN ASIA which is nothing to be happy about and won 0 trophies in 8 years at the helm and did not advance from group stage or make an Asian Cup final which of course circles back to his measly 60% win percentage.
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    When CQ took over we were the 7th best ranked team in Asia in the seedlings for the 2014 World Cup qualifying. We had just failed to qualify for a World Cup in 2010. Look where we were when he left, look at his legacy that he has left behind with our players getting more moves abroad. There is no doubting he is influential in the rise of Mehdi Taremi also.

    Yes we have moved on now but that does not mean that we can not be thankful for the work he did.

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    I'd love for anyone to explain to me when Ghoddos, in his entire career, has been in good enough shape to play a full 90 minutes.

    I'll wait.

    His conditioning is always a problem, and always will be. He just cant hang for 90 minutes and that is why he isn't as great as he could be.

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