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    #46
    Originally posted by tooleh khers View Post
    Because you strive for more and having ambitions of advancing is not out of our reach. If CQ is going to get the same results as everyone else then what advances have we made with him? Your comparison of world cup qualification is not a fair one as conditions differ from number of spots to groups to investment. It is not such a great accomplishment to qualify from one of the easiest world cup qualification groups with Iran. We are expected to qualify ahead of Uzbekistan and Qatar. This is what many are missing in their analysis. We simply are being subjective rather than objective. We have people using the words "phenomenal" and "revolutionize" Iranian football but his results certainly do not justify such words. What about an all out defensive tactic is revolutionizing Iran football? I know people keep throwing out he fixed our shattered defense argument but this is certainly not the case if we look at it historically. Yes historically Iran football has always had a good defense and we have had campaigns were allowed goal was minimal in the past and we did so with structure and not sheer numbers of defenders in the box.

    If his results were "phenomenal" and if he "revolutionized" our football we would need to see things we have not done before like an advancement in a world cup which we are the only ones not having done so which shows it is very feasible. Is our football that much below other Asian powers that they can have goals of advancement and we cannot? In any of these arguments made for CQ our level of football is always lowered to put him on a pedestal. We had our opportunity in 2014 and failed to materialize. Had he gone to a Asian cup final or advanced from a group we could certainly make that argument for him, even I had a positive view of him as posted to the point of spam in these threads but once his final report card was issued there was nothing substantial to justify the praise. Also the discipline which we all gave him credit for fell apart when it mattered and under pressure. This is not even mentioning his poor attitude and unprofessional conduct during important moments. From his first Asian Cup to his last. Embarrassed us multiple times for payment issues, uniform issues, sox issues...etc.
    None of those issues were CQs fault. For some reason, you have more of a problem with someone who calls out IFF for not providing and bringing issues than the IFF who doesn't provide for its players. Is this a classic case of image is everything?

    Again, you keep flipping your arguments. Is it luck CQ qualified twice in a row? The Koreans domt seem to think luck is what makes a difference. They have qualified for 8 in a row. So clearly there is a difference between how Korean football set itself up and Iranian football did systematically pre2010. This was an accomplishment of CQs.

    Also if we were expected to qualify to each world cup we wouldnt have gone 3 in 7 with some of the greatest of our players(Ali Daei, Mahdavikia,Karimi etc) not able to beat teams like Bahrain, Thailand, or North Korea.

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