Who had the better career at Bayern?

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  • Daei - Hashemian - Karimi

    1 2.44%
  • Daei - Karimi - Hashemian

    16 39.02%
  • Hashemian - Daei - Karimi

    1 2.44%
  • Hashemian - Karimi -Daei

    0 0%
  • Karimi - Daei - Hashemian

    21 51.22%
  • Karimi - Hashemian - Daei

    2 4.88%
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    Who had the better career at Bayern?

    Purely looking at numbers Karimi has the edge. He lasted two years while Daei and Hashemian departed after one. Karimi has 42 games for them and 4 goals and 4 assists, Daei has 32 games and 6 goals, and Hashemian has 15 games and 1 goal.
    Numbers aside I think Karimi fit in the best, mainly because of his position. If you are a forward there are only 1 or 2 spots on the field for the player while a midfielder has more opportunities to be somewhere on the field depending on the formation. So in that sense I think Karimi had the best career at Bayern amongst the 3 of them. Given his low goal to game ratio is, Daei's time there was average to bad. I consider Hashemian a flop there.

    Keep in mind I am not talking about their overall level but just how their career was during their time at Bayern.

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    Karimi had the most impact with Bayern. He played in crucial moments and helped steer the team to a Bundesliga title.
    Daei was just okay at best there. Hashemian was a flop

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    Quote Originally Posted by naderb94 View Post
    Karimi had the most impact with Bayern. He played in crucial moments and helped steer the team to a Bundesliga title.
    Daei was just okay at best there. Hashemian was a flop
    I wouldn't put too much emphasis in winning the title. It's Bayern so winning a title is the norm.

    The duration of their stay is more telling. For Karimi they chose to keep him after seeing him the first year. They chose not to for Daei or Hashemian although again teams keep less forwards than midfielders so that may have been the reason.
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    Karimi was given chance after chance after chance, and scored how many goals total? Also, I'm pretty sure Karimi started matches a lot more than Daei, since he was seen as the new Ballack of the team. Definitely Daei first- he scored 6 goals in one season. Hashemian had one goal, which came at the end of a 6-1 or 7-1 drubbing, but he wasn't given any chances. Daei-Karimi-Hash in that order is the correct order.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JaanevarAjeeb View Post
    Karimi was given chance after chance after chance, and scored how many goals total? Also, I'm pretty sure Karimi started matches a lot more than Daei, since he was seen as the new Ballack of the team. Definitely Daei first- he scored 6 goals in one season. Hashemian had one goal, which came at the end of a 6-1 or 7-1 drubbing, but he wasn't given any chances. Daei-Karimi-Hash in that order is the correct order.
    Goals are not the measuring stick of who's the "better player".. Karimi definitely had a more "all around" impact than Daei did.

    That's like saying a player like Ansarifard is better than a player like Jalal Hosseini just because of goals lol, doesn't work like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JaanevarAjeeb View Post
    Karimi was given chance after chance after chance, and scored how many goals total? Also, I'm pretty sure Karimi started matches a lot more than Daei, since he was seen as the new Ballack of the team. Definitely Daei first- he scored 6 goals in one season. Hashemian had one goal, which came at the end of a 6-1 or 7-1 drubbing, but he wasn't given any chances. Daei-Karimi-Hash in that order is the correct order.
    That is the definition of having a more successful career. For a forward scoring one goal every 5 games is a horrible average. Especially when those supplying you with opportunities up front are Bayern's midfield.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KC McElroy View Post
    That is the definition of having a more successful career. For a forward scoring one goal every 5 games is a horrible average. Especially when those supplying you with opportunities up front are Bayern's midfield.
    Definition of a successful career is contributing in goals and/or assists. He did do a decent job defending and improved his defensive game, but otherwise he was definitely not a Ballack (as intended when signed by Magath) as far as contributions. Appearances don't constitute success. Also, he was called back at Schalke a few years later and same issue- zero performance when playing (although mostly garbage time).

    Daei on the other hand had to fight against Carsten Jancker, who was a German National and was being groomed for the German National Team. After leaving the team on a couple of occasions for Team Melli (I think it was the Asian Games during winter break), he fell out of favor with Hitzfeld and was reduced to substitute player. Yet, he still managed to score 6 goals that season. There is no doubt in my mind that he would have scored in that famous CL game against ManUtd had he been subbed in. He was also very close to scoring in the German Cup Final and narrowly missed the goal. It's not even a close comparison. Daei was miles ahead in contribution in comparison to Karimi.

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    It all depends on your definition of a good career.

    1. Making more money?
    2. Getting more playing time?
    3. Scoring more goals?
    4. Becoming more famous, making a name for himself and the country?
    5. Progressing as a player?

    I don't remember how much money they all made but if you consider all the other points, Karimi is inferior to Daei in all departments but number 2 (Hashemian doesn't even count). I voted Karimi-Daei-Hashemian but after seeing the above points myself, I think I made a mistake.

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