What were the biggest flaws of CQ as team melli coach?

[DR Strangemoosh]

Also there is a failed attempt to deflate the stats of the superior coach by not counting his wins in Asian games and calling it U23 but desperately trying to count the ones that were for the U23 preparation for the tournament.

Why can't you stop lying?

1) The Asian Games are officially designated as U23 games
2) The games he played before that tournament were designated as full national team games, and these were the squads (Apart from an injured Mahdavikia, who else was a national team player at that time who wasn't in these squads... - I don't get why you keep calling them U23 games from either perspective - the squads involved, the official designation of the games.



1 06/02/02 Friendly Slovakia 2-3 Davoud FANAEI, Afshin PEYROVANI, Mehrdad MINAVAND, Yahya GOLMOHAMMADI, Hossein KAEBI, Hamed KAVIANPOUR, Dariush YAZDANI
Javad NEKOUNAM, Mohammad Ali KARIMI, Iman MOBALI, Pejman JAMSHIDI
2 01/03/02 LG CUP Venezuela 1-0 Ebrahim MIRZAPOUR, Mehrdad MINAVAND, Mohammad NAVAZI, Younis BAHONAR, Sohrab BAKHTIYARIZADEH, Afshin PEYROVANI
Yahya GOLMOHAMMADI, Mojahed KHAZIRAVI, Mohammad Ali KARIMI, Alireza VAHEDI-NIKBAKHT, Ali DAEI
3 03/03/02 LG CUP Algeria 0-0 Ebrahim MIRZAPOUR, Mohammad NAVAZI,Sohrab BAKHTIYARIZADEH,Afshin PEYROVANI, Yahya GOLMOHAMMADI, Saeed LOTFI
Hossein KAEBI, Hamed KAVIANPOUR, Mojahed KHAZIRAVI, Mohammad Ali KARIMI, Alireza VAHEDI-NIKBAKHT
4 04/04/02 WAG Palestine 2-2 Davoud FANAEI, Jalal OMIDIAN, Hamid AZIZZADEH, Mehdi AMIRABADI, Saeed LOTFI, Afshin PEYROVANI, Yahya GOLMOHAMMADI, Hossein KAEBI, Hamed KAVIANPOUR, Mohsen BAYATINIA, Rasoul KHATIBI
5 12/04/02 WAG Kuwait 0-0 Ebrahim MIRZAPOUR, Hamid AZIZZADEH, Mehdi AMIRABADI, Yahya GOLMOHAMMADI, Afshin PEYROVANI, Hossein KAEBI, Hamed KAVIANPOUR
Mahmoud Karimi Sibaki, Javad NEKOUNAM, Javad KAZEMIAN, Gholamreza ENAYATI
6 30/05/02 Friendly Kuwait 3-1 Ebrahim MIRZAPOUR, Mehdi AMIRABADI, Afshin PEYROVANI, Sohrab BAKHTIYARIZADEH, Saeed LOTFI, Yahya GOLMOHAMMADI, Hossein KAEBI
Hamed KAVIANPOUR, Javad NEKOUNAM, Faraz FATEMI, Gholamreza ENAYATI
7 11/08/02 Friendly Azerbaijan 1-1 Ebrahim MIRZAPOUR, Mohammad NAVAZI, Yahya GOLMOHAMMADI, Sohrab BAKHTIYARIZADEH, Rahman REZAEI, Mehrdad MINAVAND, Hamed KAVIANPOUR, Javad NEKOUNAM, Alireza VAHEDI-NIKBAKHT, Ali SAMEREH, Ali DAEI
8 21/08/02 Friendly Ukraine 1-0 Ebrahim MIRZAPOUR, Mehdi AMIRABADI, Saeed LOTFI, Jalal KAMELI-MOFRAD, Mohammad NOSRATI, Rahman REZAEI, Javad NEKOUNAM
Mohammad Ali KARIMI, Alireza VAHEDI-NIKBAKHT, Iman MOBALI, Mohsen BAYATINIA
9 30/08/02 WAFF Jordan 0-1 Ebrahim MIRZAPOUR, Rahman REZAEI, Mehrdad MINAVAND, Mohammad NAVAZI, Yahya GOLMOHAMMADI, Sohrab BAKHTIYARIZADEH,
Saeed LOTFI, Javad NEKOUNAM, Mohammad Ali KARIMI, Alireza VAHEDI-NIKBAKHT, Ali DAEI
10 03/09/02 WAFF Lebanon 2-0 Ebrahim MIRZAPOUR, Sohrab BAKHTIYARIZADEH, Ali BADAVI, Mehdi AMIRABADI, Jalal KAMELI-MOFRAD, Saeed LOTFI, Javad NEKOUNAM
Mohammad Ali KARIMI, Alireza VAHEDI-NIKBAKHT, Iman MOBALI, Mohsen BAYATINIA
11 05/09/02 WAFF Iraq 0-0 Ebrahim MIRZAPOUR, Sohrab BAKHTIYARIZADEH, Mohammad NOSRATI, Jalal KAMELI-MOFRAD, Saeed LOTFI, Mehdi AMIRABADI, Javad NEKOUNAM
Mohammad Ali KARIMI, Alireza VAHEDI-NIKBAKHT, Mohsen BAYATINIA, Gholamreza ENAYATI
12 07/09/02 WAFF Syria 2-2 Ebrahim MIRZAPOUR, Mehdi AMIRABADI, Sohrab BAKHTIYARIZADEH, Mohammad NOSRATI, Ali BADAVI, Jalal KAMELI-MOFRAD, Saeed LOTFI
Javad NEKOUNAM, Mohammad Ali KARIMI, Alireza VAHEDI-NIKBAKHT, Iman MOBALI
13 17/09/02 LG CUP Morocco 1-1 Ebrahim MIRZAPOUR, Ali BADAVI, Hamid AZIZZADEH, Jalal KAMELI-MOFRAD ,Saeed LOTFI, Mehdi AMIRABADI, Sohrab BAKHTIYARIZADEH, Javad NEKOUNAM, Alireza VAHEDI-NIKBAKHT, Iman MOBALI, Mohsen BAYATINIA
14 19/09/02 LG CUP Paraguay 1-1 Ebrahim MIRZAPOUR, Yahya GOLMOHAMMADI, Sohrab BAKHTIYARIZADEH, Ali BADAVI, Mohammad NOSRATI, Jalal KAMELI-MOFRAD, Javad NEKOUNAM, Javad KAZEMIAN, Alireza VAHEDI-NIKBAKHT, Iman MOBALI, Ali DAEI

[KC McElroy]

Why can't you stop lying?
1) The Asian Games are officially designated as U23 games
2) The games he played before that tournament were designated as full national team games, and these were the squads (Apart from an injured Mahdavikia, who else was a national team player at that time who wasn't in these squads... - I don't get why you keep calling them U23 games from either perspective - the squads involved, the official designation of the games.

1 06/02/02 Friendly Slovakia 2-3 Davoud FANAEI, Afshin PEYROVANI, Mehrdad MINAVAND, Yahya GOLMOHAMMADI, Hossein KAEBI, Hamed KAVIANPOUR, Dariush YAZDANI
Javad NEKOUNAM, Mohammad Ali KARIMI, Iman MOBALI, Pejman JAMSHIDI
2 01/03/02 LG CUP Venezuela 1-0 Ebrahim MIRZAPOUR, Mehrdad MINAVAND, Mohammad NAVAZI, Younis BAHONAR, Sohrab BAKHTIYARIZADEH, Afshin PEYROVANI
Yahya GOLMOHAMMADI, Mojahed KHAZIRAVI, Mohammad Ali KARIMI, Alireza VAHEDI-NIKBAKHT, Ali DAEI
3 03/03/02 LG CUP Algeria 0-0 Ebrahim MIRZAPOUR, Mohammad NAVAZI,Sohrab BAKHTIYARIZADEH,Afshin PEYROVANI, Yahya GOLMOHAMMADI, Saeed LOTFI
Hossein KAEBI, Hamed KAVIANPOUR, Mojahed KHAZIRAVI, Mohammad Ali KARIMI, Alireza VAHEDI-NIKBAKHT
4 04/04/02 WAG Palestine 2-2 Davoud FANAEI, Jalal OMIDIAN, Hamid AZIZZADEH, Mehdi AMIRABADI, Saeed LOTFI, Afshin PEYROVANI, Yahya GOLMOHAMMADI, Hossein KAEBI, Hamed KAVIANPOUR, Mohsen BAYATINIA, Rasoul KHATIBI
5 12/04/02 WAG Kuwait 0-0 Ebrahim MIRZAPOUR, Hamid AZIZZADEH, Mehdi AMIRABADI, Yahya GOLMOHAMMADI, Afshin PEYROVANI, Hossein KAEBI, Hamed KAVIANPOUR
Mahmoud Karimi Sibaki, Javad NEKOUNAM, Javad KAZEMIAN, Gholamreza ENAYATI
6 30/05/02 Friendly Kuwait 3-1 Ebrahim MIRZAPOUR, Mehdi AMIRABADI, Afshin PEYROVANI, Sohrab BAKHTIYARIZADEH, Saeed LOTFI, Yahya GOLMOHAMMADI, Hossein KAEBI
Hamed KAVIANPOUR, Javad NEKOUNAM, Faraz FATEMI, Gholamreza ENAYATI
7 11/08/02 Friendly Azerbaijan 1-1 Ebrahim MIRZAPOUR, Mohammad NAVAZI, Yahya GOLMOHAMMADI, Sohrab BAKHTIYARIZADEH, Rahman REZAEI, Mehrdad MINAVAND, Hamed KAVIANPOUR, Javad NEKOUNAM, Alireza VAHEDI-NIKBAKHT, Ali SAMEREH, Ali DAEI
8 21/08/02 Friendly Ukraine 1-0 Ebrahim MIRZAPOUR, Mehdi AMIRABADI, Saeed LOTFI, Jalal KAMELI-MOFRAD, Mohammad NOSRATI, Rahman REZAEI, Javad NEKOUNAM
Mohammad Ali KARIMI, Alireza VAHEDI-NIKBAKHT, Iman MOBALI, Mohsen BAYATINIA
9 30/08/02 WAFF Jordan 0-1 Ebrahim MIRZAPOUR, Rahman REZAEI, Mehrdad MINAVAND, Mohammad NAVAZI, Yahya GOLMOHAMMADI, Sohrab BAKHTIYARIZADEH,
Saeed LOTFI, Javad NEKOUNAM, Mohammad Ali KARIMI, Alireza VAHEDI-NIKBAKHT, Ali DAEI
10 03/09/02 WAFF Lebanon 2-0 Ebrahim MIRZAPOUR, Sohrab BAKHTIYARIZADEH, Ali BADAVI, Mehdi AMIRABADI, Jalal KAMELI-MOFRAD, Saeed LOTFI, Javad NEKOUNAM
Mohammad Ali KARIMI, Alireza VAHEDI-NIKBAKHT, Iman MOBALI, Mohsen BAYATINIA
11 05/09/02 WAFF Iraq 0-0 Ebrahim MIRZAPOUR, Sohrab BAKHTIYARIZADEH, Mohammad NOSRATI, Jalal KAMELI-MOFRAD, Saeed LOTFI, Mehdi AMIRABADI, Javad NEKOUNAM
Mohammad Ali KARIMI, Alireza VAHEDI-NIKBAKHT, Mohsen BAYATINIA, Gholamreza ENAYATI
12 07/09/02 WAFF Syria 2-2 Ebrahim MIRZAPOUR, Mehdi AMIRABADI, Sohrab BAKHTIYARIZADEH, Mohammad NOSRATI, Ali BADAVI, Jalal KAMELI-MOFRAD, Saeed LOTFI
Javad NEKOUNAM, Mohammad Ali KARIMI, Alireza VAHEDI-NIKBAKHT, Iman MOBALI
13 17/09/02 LG CUP Morocco 1-1 Ebrahim MIRZAPOUR, Ali BADAVI, Hamid AZIZZADEH, Jalal KAMELI-MOFRAD ,Saeed LOTFI, Mehdi AMIRABADI, Sohrab BAKHTIYARIZADEH, Javad NEKOUNAM, Alireza VAHEDI-NIKBAKHT, Iman MOBALI, Mohsen BAYATINIA
14 19/09/02 LG CUP Paraguay 1-1 Ebrahim MIRZAPOUR, Yahya GOLMOHAMMADI, Sohrab BAKHTIYARIZADEH, Ali BADAVI, Mohammad NOSRATI, Jalal KAMELI-MOFRAD, Javad NEKOUNAM, Javad KAZEMIAN, Alireza VAHEDI-NIKBAKHT, Iman MOBALI, Ali DAEI

Discussion about stats is pointless with someone who suffers from discalculia. You could do her a favor and simply encourage her to watch this:



Her discalculia aside she already agreed that the table showing CQ's better record was clear and she had no disagreement about it and from the very first post she agreed with it.

[sam20]

I genuinely think a sizeable number of people do find this disciplined football attractive to watch, particularly in the stadium. Seeing all the team moving as one, sticking to their lines perfectly and keeping shape, I found watching the unit mesmerising.

And a surreal experience - the contrast between this set-up (as european football pundits described us, "similar to a well-drilled club side") and deimi football in the past where people were running in random directions (was it our friend Lezawang who described us as "chicken runners", I wonder where he is today....)

Our stadium fans were applauding our crunching tackles as much as English championship sides' fans do in all the recent tournaments. I get that people like to see silky attacking moves, but where are our playmakers? We have to be honest and accept that we have some great wing-forwards and defensive midfielders but we genuinely don't have the creative attacking midfielder that other nations have, since Khalatbari at least. JB, Ghoddos, Torabi, Taremi and many others are talented in their individual ways but not in that sense. I criticised CQ's decision to exclude Khalatbari from 2014 given his form in the qualifiers, but in the end I do think he was vindicated as he just wouldn't have fit into that setup. But more than anything, I think he recognised the lack of talent we currently had in that department and had to find other ways to build a team.....

The guy was a pragmatist. I felt he extracted the last drop from this team, making better players out of the likes of Amiri, Ebrahimi etc... We didn't have the European award winning talented midfielders of the past like Mahdavikia, Karimi etc... so we had to have a pragmatic game plan which would work over 90 minutes in the world cups.

Couldn't agree more!

Others just fail to realize that this system was the only way we stood a realistic chance of qualifying for the round of 16.

We may have gotten lucky Vs Morocco, but also got super unlucky Vs Spain, and were inches away from defeating Portugal. - 1damn point behind Spain and Portugal in the toughest group of the tournament.

Lolll what more do people want?

They just act emotionally and get upset when their favourite players are not selected, or they just fail to see the tactical side of things on the field and only look for fluid attacking moves.

CQ was the greatest coach we'll ever have.

[tooleh khers]

کلانی: امیدوارم سرمربی جدید تیم ملی مودب و با فرهنگ

پیشکسوت فوتبال ایران و عضو کمیته فنی با انتقاد از سرمربی پیشین تیم ملی فوتبال ایران گفت: کی*روش لیاقت این همه احترام و حمایت را نداشت.

http://footballitarin.com/link_page.php?id=444359

[PSGman#19]

What is this lol?

https://www.tasnimnews.com/en/news/2...snim-s-answers

[KC McElroy]

What is this lol?

https://www.tasnimnews.com/en/news/2...snim-s-answers

Perhaps the target audience of the article was 5 year olds.