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    Quote Originally Posted by OSTAD POOYA View Post
    I have no idea where you are getting your stats from but the guy must either be a biased Persepolis fan or has no idea of stats and is very dishonest. I can literally blow ten holes in these stats but I just give you a couple.

    Based on your stats Branco coached 42 times which is wrong. He actually coached Iran 52 times and some sources have him coaching as high as 56 games. I won't waste my time but he had 2 stints as Iran coach. In 2002 and then Shahrokhi took over and then in 2003. So your source just ignores all games he coached in 2002. Plus CQ coached Iran 100 times but yours showing it at 93. That's just a few things that are wrong. It would be good if you can actually provide some background and info instead of just posting one graph which really does not amount to anything.
    We've been through this argument many times with this troll and he keeps spouting the same lies. It's been debunked again and again and again. He just doesn't want to accept those first 10 official (and 4 unofficial) full national TM games that Branko coached which reduces his win percentage to 57.14%. Full national team games.

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    We can go round in circles and he still just won't accept these in his fake stats:

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    Weird thing is that he never actually comes up with any real argument or rebuttal, just keeps posting those same false stats again, surreal... Mind you, he also would prefer Mayeli Kohan to Queiroz.... "I hope you are wrong. I will gladly take Mayeli Kohan instead."

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    Just to repeat for the 50th time for this troll:

    Branko had 4 wins (8 draws and 2 losses) from 14 games in his first stint and 28 wins (7 draws and 7 losses) from 42 games in his second stint.
    These first 14 games were full national team games of which 10 were FIFA validated. They were not U-23 games.

    This gives him a win percentage of 57.14% (32 out of 56 games) which puts him in between Ranjbar and Szuzs and ~3% below Queiroz, who has a win percentage of 60%

    Again, I think these things are meaningless anyway without context. Stats can be useful (together with "lies" and "damned lies", as the saying goes) but they are only a fraction of the big picture when it comes to building a national team. The value in Queiroz wasn't just his results, it was his investment in meritocracy, building an infrastructure, getting our foreign-born and raised players into our system and many, many many other things besides.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OSTAD POOYA View Post
    I have no idea where you are getting your stats from but the guy must either be a biased Persepolis fan or has no idea of stats and is very dishonest. I can literally blow ten holes in these stats but I just give you a couple.
    Based on your stats Branco coached 42 times which is wrong. He actually coached Iran 52 times and some sources have him coaching as high as 56 games. I won't waste my time but he had 2 stints as Iran coach. In 2002 and then Shahrokhi took over and then in 2003. So your source just ignores all games he coached in 2002. Plus CQ coached Iran 100 times but yours showing it at 93. That's just a few things that are wrong. It would be good if you can actually provide some background and info instead of just posting one graph which really does not amount to anything.
    This member has stated "I'm a numbers person, stats are everything" yet the whole graph is littered with incorrect data and flat-out lies. Not good for an engineer (and indeed, regardless of the numbers being completely wrong, stats without context are meaningless).

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    In all those that have coached Iran in history when looking at those with 20 games or more there is only one person that has a slightly better record than CQ. It is our own Ali Daei. He coached Iran for a total of 24 games winning 15, drawing 6, and losing 3 times. This puts his winning % at 62.5% and his win/draw ratio at 87.5%. With CQ his total winning was 60% and his win/draw 87.00% he is trailing Daei by 1/2 of a 1%.

    Looking at it in terms of pure stats and numbers Daei does have the slight edge. But keep in mind he only coached 24 games. If we were to increase the total games coached even by 1 then CQ would be the all time leader. Plus longevity and more games means a better % overtime. It generally gets closer to the mean. But for what its worth interesting results by Daei that only lost 3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by K. Nader View Post
    I have already debunked these statistics in the Branko vs CQ thread. But please, continue posting rubbish.
    You have debunked nothing. There is nothing to debunk. Branko was appointed TM coach in 2003 not 2002. 2002 he was appointed U23 coach and played with U23 players. Even if we count that he still has equal or greater win percentage, for the sake of argument (just to prove how off you are I will even give you win percentage lol) what about: WAFF title, Asian games gold, Asian cup Bronze, intercontinental championship, and his stats (win percentage, loss, tie) were against higher ranking opponents. I don't know how old you are but it's time you grow up.
    Here is another source (CQ bias) that confirms the same thing:

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    Quote Originally Posted by OSTAD POOYA View Post
    I have no idea where you are getting your stats from but the guy must either be a biased Persepolis fan or has no idea of stats and is very dishonest. I can literally blow ten holes in these stats but I just give you a couple.

    Based on your stats Branco coached 42 times which is wrong. He actually coached Iran 52 times and some sources have him coaching as high as 56 games. I won't waste my time but he had 2 stints as Iran coach. In 2002 and then Shahrokhi took over and then in 2003. So your source just ignores all games he coached in 2002. Plus CQ coached Iran 100 times but yours showing it at 93. That's just a few things that are wrong. It would be good if you can actually provide some background and info instead of just posting one graph which really does not amount to anything.
    You are wrong. Branko was appointed TM coach in 2003 not 2002. 2002 he was appointed U23 coach and played with U23 players. Even if we count that he still has equal or greater win percentage, for the sake of argument (just to prove how off you are I will even give you win percentage) what about: WAFF title, Asian games gold, Asian cup Bronze, intercontinental championship, and his stats (win percentage, loss, tie) were against higher ranking opponents. Yes this stat is not up to date as it was from a few weeks ago but does that change anything? No a smart person would say.
    Here is another source (CQ bias) that confirms the same thing:

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    Branko was our coach in 2002 already, for example coaching us against Ukraine in a friendly match we won 1-0. He was responsible for the A team too as successor to Blazevic, before being replaced by Shahrokhi and then reinstalled in 2003.

    No idea who is on who's side, but get your facts straight.

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