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    Quote Originally Posted by Leicester City View Post
    He already is our best legionnaire currently, no one plays on a better team than he does.
    In my opinion Serie A isn’t too hard of a league and I’m not saying this to belittle/disrespect the league or anything like that. The reason I say this is because our fullback Rahman Rezaei went straight out of 2nd division Iranian football to straight up bossing it in Serie A during a timeline where Italian Football was at its peak. Rahman Rezaei was of course a byproduct of Iranian Football as we all know and went from 2nd division football of Iran (without any 1st division experience) to being labeled as one of the most consistent fullbacks in Serie A. (And if you believe anything I’m saying is controversial, please do call me out on it.)


    These are just some of the teams Rahman Rezaei would have faced in the golden era of Serie A or “Le Sette Sorelle
    I dont really think its that relevant. Thats just one player and 20 years ago as well almost. Napoli could be a very good fit for azmoun for some reasons and not for others.

    Pros :
    - Huge club with massive history, as well as excellent recent history. Beating liverpool (First team to do it this season, back at liverpools peak early-mid season), then drawing them at anfield. Defeating and drawing high flying salzburg, drawing barcelona (should have won) in RO16. Plus many good performances in previous years as well. Very competitve in domestic league, finishing in CL spots for almost last 4 or 5 years, pushing Juve in title race multiple times.
    - Great track record of taking players in Azmouns category (younger but with experience, talented but not quite at top class level) and developing them into superstars.
    Examples :
    Koulibaly : Came from Genk for under 10 mil EU I believe. Now one of top 5 CBs in the world without a question
    Fabian Ruiz : Came from Betis as exciting but inconsistent talent, now regular fixture in Spain squad with Real, Barca, and Liverpool all in line to buy him for around 80 mil EU
    Zielinski : Came from Empoli, smaller italian team, is now one of the most dynamic young mids in europe.
    Allan : Came from udinese, became one of best CDMs in Italy and in Europe statistically.
    Jorginho : came from Verona for nominal sum, sold to Chelsea for 60 mil EU two summers ago, one of the best registas in world right now.
    Mertens : Came from PSV as young winger, became one of the best goal scorers in italy and regular for the best Belgium side in history.
    Other examples include Insigne who came from pescara as a youngster, Elif Elmas who came from Fener this summer but already amassed 23 appearances.
    -Quality teammates in midfield, wings so he will get good service.
    - Lack of any real CF competition on his level as Milik and Llorente will be sold this summer making room for azmoun. Petagna may come in as well but he is not on azmouns level and will provide a more physical option/long ball for plan B off bench.

    Potential Cons :
    - Uncertainty surrounding future of team. This season squad has been in crisis until arrival of gattuso, despite managing some good one off results with ancelotti. To stabilize team gattuso has been more defensive, although still playing some good football. Its hard to say what direction team will go next season. Will also depend on transfer situation. A lot of this current team may be broken up. While Zielinski, Elmas, Insigne, Manolas, Politano,Demme, Mertens etc will form new nucleus of the world class players in the team like Koulibaly, Fabian Ruiz , and Allan may be sold for huge sums of money.

    - Gattuso. He is an excellent motivator who may get best out of azmoun and propel him to new level. He also may not be satisfied if he is not doing certain things correctly and totally discard him like he did with record signing Lozano, mexican winger from PSV.

    - Serie A is more tactical and defensive still, despite teams opening up a bit more. Defenses usually play 5 at the back, will not be open fast paced football like Germany or EPL, so less chances for sardar.

    Overall given situation, azmouns profile, other potntial suitors, the pros outweigh the cons in my opinion. He can go to a top european with huge history and track record of getting players to world class level and be VERY competitive both domestically and in europe, and can do while being the star player up front. Not many teams with napolis profile can offer such a position to azmoun (number 1 CF) immediately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by inarsenewetrust View Post
    I dont really think its that relevant. Thats just one player and 20 years ago as well almost.
    I know, I know. My point in general was to emphasize Rahman Rezaei’s impressive “consistency” and that the level of Serie A was higher back then than it is now especially with that infamous AC Milan team who had the likes Maldini, Cafu, Inzaghi, etc... Disappointing we never saw a player in Serie A in the past 20 years or so.

    Someone was mentioning Tomiyasu preforming/being a starter for Bologna in this thread, my counter example is Rahman Rezaei. Tomiyasu went from a Belgium to a stable Bologna side. Rahman Rezaei went from 2nd division football to Serie A than to Serie B to help his team get promoted to Serie A. Once again, this was at a time where Italian football was at a peak, I doubt Tomiyasu could replicate that in the context all this.

    There is more postivity than negativity to make Azmoun to Napoli "World Class" and justifiable move which I personally hope truly happens, because the man deserves it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Foolad Khuzestan View Post
    If he makes it to Napoli and becomes regular, is he the biggest Legionair ever maybe ?
    Karimi to Bayern, Daei to Bayern.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leicester City View Post
    because our fullback Rahman Rezaei went straight out of 2nd division Iranian football to straight up bossing it in Serie A during a timeline where Italian Football was at its peak. Rahman Rezaei was of course a byproduct of Iranian Football as we all know and went from 2nd division football of Iran (without any 1st division experience) to being labeled as one of the most consistent fullbacks in Serie A. (And if you believe anything I’m saying is controversial, please do call me out on it.)
    What you are saying is controversial because your facts are wrong dude. Rahman Rezaei was playing in PGL (Zobahan) and in TM before he went to Serie A. The reason Perugia got him to begin with, was his great performances for TM and Zobahan up until then.

    Also I have to add, Serie A is a dream for a defender when the whole league's mentality is defense. Specially when you play in a smaller team and many players support you in the defense line. Rahman Rezaei would have had a much much tougher time in an attacking minded league, where not lots of players support each other in defense. More mistakes would turn out from him then, a la TM in Blazevic's time.

    Azmoun though, as a striker, will have a much tougher time in Serie A. If he can crack that nut, it will be great for his career. He needs to show he's up for the challenge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iran_19 View Post
    Karimi to Bayern, Daei to Bayern.
    But they weren't starters, I mean if Azmoun goes to Napoli and lets say plays 30 games in 1 year and scores 15-20 goals he may become the biggest legionair ever
    Vive la résistance

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    Quote Originally Posted by Foolad Khuzestan View Post
    But they weren't starters, I mean if Azmoun goes to Napoli and lets say plays 30 games in 1 year and scores 15-20 goals he may become the biggest legionair ever
    To be fair, in Karimi's first year in Bayern, no one in the midfield was a "starter" but Ballack. In his second year, Ballack left and no one was a starter! Magath used a rotation system in the midfield but Ali Karimi got to play as much as the others if not even more. I remember in some games in his second year, he was the only star of the team! In BAYERN MUNICH!!! I think it takes alot before Azmoun can reach that in Napoli.

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    karimi did better than Daei and Vahid in Bayern, his first season was amazing.

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    Azmoun starting in a virtual match between Zenit and CSKA Moscow. Game on shortly =)


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    Quote Originally Posted by Iran_19 View Post
    karimi did better than Daei and Vahid in Bayern, his first season was amazing.
    True and that had nothing to do with Daei's or Vahid's skills.

    Daei was unfortunate to play in an era where Asian games or friendly preparations did not coincide with UEFA's. So he had to lose training and/or games with Bayern because of national duties.

    In Hashemian's case, as far as I remember, he was unlucky when Bayern's first real preparation game after his inclusion, was against an Israeli team. So he had to stay away from it and thus lost his potential starting position.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sly View Post
    True and that had nothing to do with Daei's or Vahid's skills.

    Daei was unfortunate to play in an era where Asian games or friendly preparations did not coincide with UEFA's. So he had to lose training and/or games with Bayern because of national duties.

    In Hashemian's case, as far as I remember, he was unlucky when Bayern's first real preparation game after his inclusion, was against an Israeli team. So he had to stay away from it and thus lost his potential starting position.
    I agree about Daei, he also was playing during Elber time, which was a legend in Bayern and scored a lot for them, also the favoritism that Jancker got from Bayern, but, Vahid was simply not good enough for Bayern, and was actually never impressive after his magic season with Bochum.

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