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    We can also question :

    - why Portugal was so slow to open his league to our players (litteraly they waited 8 years of CQ).
    - why Spain didn't renew interest for our players after Shojaei/Nekounam
    - why greece did a successful "one shot" with Ansarifard/Hajsafi/Shojaei but nothing after. The same with Russia

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    Quote Originally Posted by PSGman#19 View Post
    We can also question :

    - why Portugal was so slow to open his league to our players (litteraly they waited 8 years of CQ).
    - why Spain didn't renew interest for our players after Shojaei/Nekounam
    - why greece did a successful "one shot" with Ansarifard/Hajsafi/Shojaei but nothing after. The same with Russia
    For players within Iran:

    1 - financial restrictions make it really hard to get the transfers through. A club really has to want a player to make it happen.
    2 - Iranian players make decent money in Iran, and most European clubs want our players dirt cheap or on free transfers.
    3 - Poor agents.
    4 - Players lack of motivation/laziness/fear.

    For players outside of Iran:

    1 - Poor agents (look at Ghodoos)
    2 - Bad contracts (Look at Azmoun)
    3 - Terrible advisers (again, look at Ghodoos)

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    Quote Originally Posted by PSGman#19 View Post
    Because like most of the rest of the world, maro adam hesab nemikonan.

    Between Daei, Mahdavikia.. era and now, there was litteraly a shitstorm on everything iranian. In the meantime only hajsafi played there and it was far from being a success (don't count Dejagah which is considered as german).
    I mean there's also the fact that our clubs really try to take as much money as they can since they all owe money to foreign coaches....agents are thieves....etc

    Or it could be as simple as the fact that countries that are football equals to us like Japan are able to ship more players consistently with less headsaches and the added incentive that there is a market for the club in Japan.

    This is the same reason Iran isnt in FIFA. How much money could they make off Iranians when a lot of jerseys etc are pirated and fake

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    Quote Originally Posted by perspolis#1 View Post
    I mean there's also the fact that our clubs really try to take as much money as they can since they all owe money to foreign coaches....agents are thieves....etc

    Or it could be as simple as the fact that countries that are football equals to us like Japan are able to ship more players consistently with less headsaches and the added incentive that there is a market for the club in Japan.

    This is the same reason Iran isnt in FIFA. How much money could they make off Iranians when a lot of jerseys etc are pirated and fake
    Ok but we have a lot of players playing outside iran so they shouldn't have all these headaches to deal with non iranian clubs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nokhodi View Post
    For players within Iran:

    1 - financial restrictions make it really hard to get the transfers through. A club really has to want a player to make it happen.
    2 - Iranian players make decent money in Iran, and most European clubs want our players dirt cheap or on free transfers.
    3 - Poor agents.
    4 - Players lack of motivation/laziness/fear.

    For players outside of Iran:

    1 - Poor agents (look at Ghodoos)
    2 - Bad contracts (Look at Azmoun)
    3 - Terrible advisers (again, look at Ghodoos)
    I dont deny all this but in comparison belgium don't stop getting iranian players in the other hand

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    Quote Originally Posted by perspolis#1 View Post
    I mean there's also the fact that our clubs really try to take as much money as they can since they all owe money to foreign coaches....agents are thieves....etc

    Or it could be as simple as the fact that countries that are football equals to us like Japan are able to ship more players consistently with less headsaches and the added incentive that there is a market for the club in Japan.

    This is the same reason Iran isnt in FIFA. How much money could they make off Iranians when a lot of jerseys etc are pirated and fake
    For Japanese players and now Chinese players - TV rights are huge.
    If you sign a Japanese player, it is very likely Japanese TV will buy your club's tv matches.

    Most clubs can only survive on TV rights money.

    Added incentive.

    If you're a European club and you need to go through all sorts of headache, pay a decent amount of money (same as what a local might want), with no business tie-in, it becomes really hard to justify.
    Sometimes it works out though. For example, in Mehdi's case, because he was based in Qatar, the money transfer was easy and he also took a huge paycut!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nokhodi View Post
    For players within Iran:

    1 - financial restrictions make it really hard to get the transfers through. A club really has to want a player to make it happen.
    2 - Iranian players make decent money in Iran, and most European clubs want our players dirt cheap or on free transfers.
    3 - Poor agents.
    4 - Players lack of motivation/laziness/fear.

    For players outside of Iran:

    1 - Poor agents (look at Ghodoos)
    2 - Bad contracts (Look at Azmoun)
    3 - Terrible advisers (again, look at Ghodoos)
    Wouldnt consider Ghoddos part of iranian
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    Quote Originally Posted by ehsan_REAL1 View Post
    Wouldnt consider Ghoddos part of iranian
    True, he has a Swedish passport, but his agents and advisers are idiots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nokhodi View Post
    For players within Iran:

    1 - financial restrictions make it really hard to get the transfers through. A club really has to want a player to make it happen.
    2 - Iranian players make decent money in Iran, and most European clubs want our players dirt cheap or on free transfers.
    3 - Poor agents.
    4 - Players lack of motivation/laziness/fear.

    For players outside of Iran:

    1 - Poor agents (look at Ghodoos)
    2 - Bad contracts (Look at Azmoun)
    3 - Terrible advisers (again, look at Ghodoos)
    I'd like to add one more point....

    Lack of copy right laws make it impossible for a club to profit on shirt sales in Iran, hence Iranian players lose benefit when the club can get a cheap player with equal quality from another country and gain from him too!

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    Quote Originally Posted by perspolis#1 View Post
    Or it could be as simple as the fact that countries that are football equals to us like Japan are able to ship more players consistently with less headsaches and the added incentive that there is a market for the club in Japan.
    Their players are simply better than us. Look at their new young stars like Kubo and Tomiyasu. They are U-21 but already start for the top 4 league clubs every week. Name U-21 Iranian players who get playing time in the top 4 leagues. FYI, Kubo is the same age as Sayyadmanesh. With all due respect, only our fans think Iran is on par with Japan in football. But in reality we are behind them in every aspect (WC, Asian Cup, legionnaires, domestic league etc).

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