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    Thank you CQ, as always

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    Thanks CQ for your understanding.
    Thanks for returning all the PP players home.
    Thank you for letting Mr Branko have fun seeing his players having rest instead of being prepared under your great regime (once again look at Ramin).
    Please find replacements for any players from PP and Tractor and let them be happy to fight for a meaningless title.Once again, you outsmarted both our puppet coaches.
    TM is above everything, but some of the club coaches and fans have difficulty getting this concept :-)

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    I read Branko said that there is more than just the national team in a countries football like clubs, womans football, Futsal, beach soccer etc

    He needs to understand that most people don't really give a donkey about our league, they only care for our players to stay fit and play regularly somewhere so that they can play for the national team. It's not like the premier league where their club football is more important than the English national team. Don't talk about woman's football, futsal and beach soccer, it literally has no connection to what he's trying to say, so shut up.

    Most of what Branko Ivankovic is saying in my opinion is jealousy. I understand that it's his job to get his players to win trophies regardless of if people care or not but don't act like the league should be on par with the national team, thats just dumb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greenguy4life View Post
    He needs to understand that most people don't really give a donkey about our league, they only care for our players to stay fit and play regularly somewhere so that they can play for the national team. It's not like the premier league where their club football is more important than the English national team. Don't talk about woman's football, futsal and beach soccer, it literally has no connection to what he's trying to say, so shut up.
    What do you mean with most people? The attendance numbers of Perspolis home games are at least 40-50k, the highest number since the Ghotbi era. Esteghlal's home games in the last season increased as well.

    In Iran, at least 70% of football fans are supporting Perspolis or Esteghlal. I've also seen people, who never watch football, but support one of those teams. This has always been the case and has to be considered as a fact. Even if the stadiums were empty, a lot of people watched the games on TV. I say this because I have been to Iran recently and watched a couple of Perspolis games with friends and family.

    Just look at the most followed players on Instagram, either Perspolis or Esteghlal players, some of them haven't been invited to the national team for a long long time. Compare f.e. Arash Borhani with Saeid Ezatollahi, who "only" played in Malavan.

    When it comes to the national team, a lot of them have an affiliation for their clubs. Please take that into consideration!


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    So sorry to hear that they are so ... (i don't really know what word to use).

    Then lets PP fans enjoy winning a useless title in Iran league and get eliminated after the second or third game in ACL (as always).

    if they don't comprehend the difference between our TM playing in WQ and PP playing against Tractor and winning or losing a title, then we shouldn't really have any discussion here.

    That is why i am thanking CQ for letting PP and tractor focus on what matters for them most and not invite any PP or tractor players to TM.

    Are you supportive of this idea or not? You can't have the cake and eat it too :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by theworldgame View Post
    So sorry to hear that they are so ... (i don't really know what word to use).

    Then lets PP fans enjoy winning a useless title in Iran league and get eliminated after the second or third game in ACL (as always).

    if they don't comprehend the difference between our TM playing in WQ and PP playing against Tractor and winning or losing a title, then we shouldn't really have any discussion here.

    That is why i am thanking CQ for letting PP and tractor focus on what matters for them most and not invite any PP or tractor players to TM.

    Are you supportive of this idea or not? You can't have the cake and eat it too :-)
    Dude, just because they support a club and have an affiliation, it doesn't mean that they turn against TM!! There is a reason why the home games against Qatar and Korea were sell-outs. The remaining home games will be sell-outs as well.
    Don't let some leaders (club-employees) and the "havadar-nama" fool you.
    Not only Perspolis and Esteghlal, but also Malavan, Foolad, Sepahan, Tractor etc. have supporters since 50 years and to say that nobody cares about the league is not true!

    This is the result of a conflict of interest, which existed LONG before CQ. If you remember, many club coaches protested against training camps when Ghotbi, Daei, Ghaleneoi etc. were in charge.
    I'm a passionate supporter of Perspolis since the Ghotbi era, but TM always has the highest priority. Going to WC > Winning the club WC. And CQ will have fun if he has to replace 7 + 4 players.


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    Quote Originally Posted by 04041374 View Post
    What do you mean with most people? The attendance numbers of Perspolis home games are at least 40-50k, the highest number since the Ghotbi era. Esteghlal's home games in the last season increased as well.

    In Iran, at least 70% of football fans are supporting Perspolis or Esteghlal. I've also seen people, who never watch football, but support one of those teams. This has always been the case and has to be considered as a fact. Even if the stadiums were empty, a lot of people watched the games on TV. I say this because I have been to Iran recently and watched a couple of Perspolis games with friends and family.

    Just look at the most followed players on Instagram, either Perspolis or Esteghlal players, some of them haven't been invited to the national team for a long long time. Compare f.e. Arash Borhani with Saeid Ezatollahi, who "only" played in Malavan.

    When it comes to the national team, a lot of them have an affiliation for their clubs. Please take that into consideration!
    Of course their are tons of Persepolis, Esteghlal etc within and outwith Iran. I'm talking about the current situation of the Iranian national team. In most European countries nowadays, club football is regarded as a much more important than international football. International football isn't as sought for as it used to be 10-15 years ago.

    However, in Iran, I'm sorry but as much as we have die hard or casual supporters of IPL clubs, as of today, in the great condition the national team is in and the potential the national team has to improve further, all due respect to the IPL clubs, priority must go to the national team.

    I'm really not a fan of club football in Iran. That's just my opinion. I've worked in grassroots and pro-youth football in Scotland and USA for the past 3 and a half years and they put so much effort into their youth football and league development, they have some of the most state-of-the-art facilities available, yet I genuinely do not believe they would stand a chance against our national team. If we had the same level of organisation and competence as these countries have, we wouldn't be having this conversation.

    I was obviously wrong to say no one gives a donkey, I really meant, today as of now, surely people would take preference over the national team than their beloved clubs, maybe in the past this would be easily arguable but under Carlos Querioz the situation has changed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greenguy4life View Post
    I read Branko said that there is more than just the national team in a countries football like clubs, womans football, Futsal, beach soccer etc
    He needs to understand that most people don't really give a donkey about our league, they only care for our players to stay fit and play regularly somewhere so that they can play for the national team. It's not like the premier league where their club football is more important than the English national team. Don't talk about woman's football, futsal and beach soccer, it literally has no connection to what he's trying to say, so shut up.
    Most of what Branko Ivankovic is saying in my opinion is jealousy. I understand that it's his job to get his players to win trophies regardless of if people care or not but don't act like the league should be on par with the national team, thats just dumb.
    You don't have an accurate perception becuase you don't really follow much domestically. Unfortunately a lot of perspolis and esteghlal fans (as well as other clubs to be fair) inside Iran care about their clubs a lot than TM. There are even a bunch of perspolis fans who have gone to the airport to greet the TM players. PFDC isn't even close to being represententative of TM fans, some ways for the good but some ways for the bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ali alipour View Post
    You don't have an accurate perception becuase you don't really follow much domestically. Unfortunately a lot of perspolis and esteghlal fans (as well as other clubs to be fair) inside Iran care about their clubs a lot than TM. There are even a bunch of perspolis fans who have gone to the airport to greet the TM players. PFDC isn't even close to being represententative of TM fans, some ways for the good but some ways for the bad.
    Like I said, there are die hard fans, I know that because I've been to Iran and I have also have family members who support the teams. What I meant was in our CURRENT state, the national team has to take priority due to the the potential of success we can have under Querioz. It's not a bad thing to support your favourite Iranian club, but understand that we are in a wonderful position to improve and everyone needs to get behind them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ali alipour View Post
    There are even a bunch of perspolis fans who have gone to the airport to greet the TM players.
    And the funniest/saddest thing is that Perspolis players went through another exit. So the fans were there for nothing.

    As a Perspolis fan, I don't know what to say about this whole saga.


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    This is a lose-lose situation!!! Very sad!


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