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    Quote Originally Posted by AminGP View Post
    Should Ali Daie come back from retirement if his record is under threat by Naymar or Messi?

    Records are there for it to be broken. It's there to give motivation to athletes to get better. Falcao retired only 2 months ago and Vahid's last game for Iran was in 2012 that's almost 5 years ago.
    Totally agree! Some people have forgotten that we made Ali Daei stay in TM until he couldn't even walk anymore, just to make his record unreachable. If the Brazilians are childish, we are as childish as them too then!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sly View Post
    Totally agree! Some people have forgotten that we made Ali Daei stay in TM until he couldn't even walk anymore, just to make his record unreachable. If the Brazilians are childish, we are as childish as them too then!
    Huh? i don't recall ali daei staying having anything to do with his record.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBoss View Post
    Huh? i don't recall ali daei staying having anything to do with his record.
    That was the main reason! They wanted to increase his record beyond reach!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sly View Post
    That was the main reason! They wanted to increase his record beyond reach!
    no one expected that he could make his record better in 2006. He stayed because Branko was too weak to cut him

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nariman View Post
    I rather think it's childish from Brazil and IMO we should not let anyone take away our record easily like that. Inviting Falcao and making sure to pass every ball to them so he scores 9 goals in few matches, and then retires again, is kind of disrespectful towards us and the game.

    Having the World Top Scorer in Football and Futsal is something we never appreciated enough; in fact the World never really gave us credit for that. I bet if they weren’t Iranian they would get so much attention...lets defend our record and not let anyone play a false game like that with us. This is an unfair act by Brazil and we should show them that we stand strong and won’t get fooled.

    And TBH I don't think this comparison makes really sense here. If likes of Neymar manage to break that record then it’s indeed fair, because Ali Daei retired 10 years ago and doesn’t play football anymore. Shamsaei however is still playing and winning titles, I am not sure if he actually ever retired from Iran officially.

    Had Falcao broken the record before retirement and then Iran would have called Shamsaei to comeback, then we could have said that’s childish. But he retired and all they want is to let him score few goals just for the record, only to let him retire again after maybe 2 or 3 matches against some weak random team. That's the point here why we should certainly react.
    There is a consistency problem with your view. We both agree that reinviting Falcao solely for the express purpose of breaking Shamsaei's record is beyond childish. If so, how could reinviting Shamsaei to break Falcao's possible future record not be childish? It must be by extension. Remember what First Lady Michelle Obama said: "When they go low, we go high!". In this world, we have nothing but our principles. There is nothing sweeter than staying true to them. Let the Brazilians engage in childish behavior if they choose to, but please don't ask us to do the same. We would become indistinguishable if we did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Pouya View Post
    Both parties are petty af tbh.
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    but the Brazilians are the bigger twat for starting this bs pitty-fest..! perhaps if they realize we are to retaliate in kind they will refrain from making such a faggotty move..! and sure as shittt we wont allow them to win in such a fashion..!

    world scoring records by default belongs to Iran, next is beach football..!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lorestani View Post
    There is a consistency problem with your view. We both agree that reinviting Falcao solely for the express purpose of breaking Shamsaei's record is beyond childish. If so, how could reinviting Shamsaei to break Falcao's possible future record not be childish? It must be by extension. Remember what First Lady Michelle Obama said: "When they go low, we go high!". In this world, we have nothing but our principles. There is nothing sweeter than staying true to them. Let the Brazilians engage in childish behavior if they choose to, but please don't ask us to do the same. We would become indistinguishable if we did.
    Bro. this "moral card" won’t cut it, sorry, Yeah it sounds nice and classy to say that "on paper", but at least THIS world plays a different game, ....we have been doing the same for example with AFC, however at the end only were treated worse - there comes a time where you have to react - especially when it comes to us nobody gives a ****, we have to fight for ourselves!

    Again, the Ali Daei comparison makes zero sense. He retired 10 years ago and doesn’t play football anymore. Shamsaei however is still playing and actually even one of the better players. He didn’t retire like Falcao! Our reaction wouldn’t be childish, but FAIR - fire with fire. I personally don’t want anyone to take something away from us like that - MOSTLY because I don’t want Iran to look so weak. Once you go victim and don’t defend - more & more will treat you the same... so Indeed, "nothing but our principles"...
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBoss View Post
    no one expected that he could make his record better in 2006. He stayed because Branko was too weak to cut him
    In 2006? He couldn't and shouldn't have played football since 2004! Branko was too weak to cut him because "people above Branko" wanted him there! They wanted him to increase his record. and of course he wouldn't mind it himself.

    Branko was too weak to fight these people unlike CQ, it's true! but they were mainly at fault for Daei staying in TM for so long. So we need to take a look at ourselves before judging the Brazilians.

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    How old is Valid now. Is he playing for a club? If yes why not. I bring him anyway if possible. Let him play against weaker teams for a year so he scores more and make it even harder to break his record. Let them tast their own medicine.
    Last edited by Siavash; 11-28-2016 at 01:10 PM.

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    this is below the level of Brazil Federation, my suggestion is to have IFF talk to Brazil federation about this and not allow this ruin the reputation of the two of the best futsal players in the world! Falcoa was okay with retiring and they should be okay with it too.
    IRI = FAILED

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