Iranians in Europe (without threads)

[Medzdidz]

Just an update on how Dennis Eckert is doing at Ingolstadt.

In his first game , a 3-2 loss at home to Hallescher he got a goal and an assist.

In his second game , a 2-1 loss against Bayern Munich reserves (including Sarpeet Singh and Alphonso Davies) he scored their only goal.

Good start for him , if he carries this on he will be in a higher league next season. Guessing at least a transfer to the 2nd Bundesliga.

[inarsenewetrust]

today nadiem amiri received his first senior Germany national team call up. He is of afghan descent.

It made me wonder, with even the likes of Syria represented now in german national team setups through dahoud, why bar dejagah many years ago, and ghoddos more recently ( who was actualy never in swedish youth setups), we have so few european raised iranians playing at a higher level abroad. We have a very sizeable expat population there. Obviously the main reasons are that iranian parents push their children in direction of education rather than sport, also many are in more well off financial situations which doesnt typically produce many footballers. However, it is still strange how few europeans of iranian origin are represented in top flight clubs, youth teams, etc.

I feel like much of it also has to do with a lot of iranian youth abroad being more into poz dadan and trying to make money fast/ flaunt their parents wealth rather than do something demanding/productive themselves.

What are your guys thoughts?

[Dortmund]

today nadiem amiri received his first senior Germany national team call up. He is of afghan descent.

It made me wonder, with even the likes of Syria represented now in german national team setups through dahoud, why bar dejagah many years ago, and ghoddos more recently ( who was actualy never in swedish youth setups), we have so few european raised iranians playing at a higher level abroad. We have a very sizeable expat population there. Obviously the main reasons are that iranian parents push their children in direction of education rather than sport, also many are in more well off financial situations which doesnt typically produce many footballers. However, it is still strange how few europeans of iranian origin are represented in top flight clubs, youth teams, etc.

I feel like much of it also has to do with a lot of iranian youth abroad being more into poz dadan and trying to make money fast/ flaunt their parents wealth rather than do something demanding/productive themselves.

What are your guys thoughts?

I think it is a socioeconomic thing. Many of the Maghrebi and middle eastern footballers come from low income families who let their children try to become succesful in football as the payoff would be huge. Most Iranians in Europe tend to be middle class if not well off, and don't see the need for these risks and push their children towards medicine, law, engineering, etc. We always have like 10-20 Iranians from Europe in European academies but that isn't high enough as maybe one or two will reach senior football. There are hundreds of Morrocans in just Holland alone in these academies, which is why you see the likes of Ziyech, Mazroui, etc

[Nokhodi]

today nadiem amiri received his first senior Germany national team call up. He is of afghan descent.

It made me wonder, with even the likes of Syria represented now in german national team setups through dahoud, why bar dejagah many years ago, and ghoddos more recently ( who was actualy never in swedish youth setups), we have so few european raised iranians playing at a higher level abroad. We have a very sizeable expat population there. Obviously the main reasons are that iranian parents push their children in direction of education rather than sport, also many are in more well off financial situations which doesnt typically produce many footballers. However, it is still strange how few europeans of iranian origin are represented in top flight clubs, youth teams, etc.

I feel like much of it also has to do with a lot of iranian youth abroad being more into poz dadan and trying to make money fast/ flaunt their parents wealth rather than do something demanding/productive themselves.

What are your guys thoughts?

Most Iranian parents would balk at their children focusing on sports at that level. It would take away from their academics and the chance of success in sports is pretty low.

[Ali Doust]

Iranians suck at parenting.

[Nokhodi]

Iranians suck at parenting.

Disagree. For the most part they do very well.

[Leicester City]

Interesting Fact: The Portuguese Cup yesterday involved teams of 6 Iranian Legionnaires: Mehdi Taremi (Rio Ave), Alireza Alipour (Barreiro), Mehrdad Mohammadi (Aves), Shahyan Khademi (Leca), Taha Zareei (AD Fafe), and Amir Abedzadeh (Maritimo).

[marouane]

I think it is a socioeconomic thing. Many of the Maghrebi and middle eastern footballers come from low income families who let their children try to become succesful in football as the payoff would be huge. Most Iranians in Europe tend to be middle class if not well off, and don't see the need for these risks and push their children towards medicine, law, engineering, etc. We always have like 10-20 Iranians from Europe in European academies but that isn't high enough as maybe one or two will reach senior football. There are hundreds of Morrocans in just Holland alone in these academies, which is why you see the likes of Ziyech, Mazroui, etc

well, i dont agree with you , becouse there is also passion of football which are very huge in my country, look at the derby of casablanca for example,

[DR Strangemoosh]

well, i dont agree with you , becouse there is also passion of football which are very huge in my country, look at the derby of casablanca for example,

Yes, what has this got to do with his post? Of course football is hugely popular in Morocco. That has nothing to do with the point he is making

[marouane]

Yes, what has this got to do with his post? Of course football is hugely popular in Morocco. That has nothing to do with the point he is making

it has been so far i didn't comment in this forum, since word cup, i will see the derby of tehran this thurday.