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    Quote Originally Posted by Bi-honar View Post
    Herpy derp
    I know nuance is above your paygrade, but both those facts are true. Gaps have indeed been reduced all over the world as I showed in those examples. A 1-1 away tie against Turkmenistan is no longer an aberration for us or any other Asian powers. But it's also true that beating that team 5-0 would not even come close to 'legendary' or 'mythological' status and it's downright loony to suggest so. We would have scored that many goals by just converting half our chances that day. Similarly in Europe, Albania beating France is no longer a catastrophe and is not a sign that France is necessarily in disarray, but at the same time it would be utterly ridiculous for French fans to attach 'legendary' significance to scoring a bunch of goals on Albania. Then again they're not looking at it from a marsupial perspective...or was it mammalian... or something.

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    Unfortunately, more bad news re: TM from Khabar Online via Footbalitarin putting in question the whole "friendly' atmosphere in the TM camps:

    It says that Montazeri and Gucci got into into an argument in the change rooms after the Turkmenistan game. All the players were obviously upset with the result and Montazeri was going on with one of the players (not mentioned who) about the poor performance of TM and the players.

    This goes on for a while until Gucci jumps in and tells Montazeri to stop it and if they were going to do anything, they should have done it on the field and during the game. Then Montazeri tells Gucci that this is none of his business.

    The argument ensues with Gucci who's clearly upset about being a bench-warmer and other players jump in to stop the argument, but Montazeri turns around and tells other players, "this guy has been here for two days, why is he talking like this".

    Since this is going on in front of all the players, particularly the young ones, the more experienced players eventually jump in and tell the two to stop arguing, at least in front of the younger players.

    منتظری در لحظه عصبانیت می گوید قوچان نژاد دو روز است به تیم ملی آمده و نباید اینطور حرف بزند!

    به گزارش خبرگزاری خبرآنلاین؛ بعد از بازی ایران و ترکمنستان. بازیکنان خسته و ناراحت هستند. تیم ملی موفق نشده حریف ضعیف خود را شکست دهد. پژمان منتظری در گوشه ای از رختکن همراه با یکی از بازیکنان تیم ملی به گلایه از عملکرد بازیکنان و تیم می پردازد. اکثر بازیکنان ناراحت هستند و واکنشی نشان نمی دهد اما رضا قوچان نژاد وارد بحث می شود: بس کن دیگه. اگه می خواستیم کاری کنیم باید تو زمین می کردیم. تمومش کن. این حرف های گوچی باعث تعجب منتظری می شود و به رضا می گوید این بحث ها ارتباطی به او ندارد. قوچان نژاد هم گویا از عملکرد خود و همینطور نیمکت نشینی اش خیلی راضی نیست. بازیکنان دیگر واسطه می شوند تا بحث بین آنها تمام می شود اما منتظری که شدیدا از دست قوچان نژاد دلخور است، می گوید: دو روز است آمده، چرا اینطوری حرف می زند؟! این بحث ها جلوی بازیکنان جوان تیم صورت می گیرد و اکثر با تجربه ها می گویند بهتر است آنها ساکت باشند و حداقل جلوی جوان ها با هم چنین بحثی نکنند.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bi-honar View Post
    Unfortunately, more bad news re: TM from Khabar Online via Footbalitarin putting in question the whole "friendly' atmosphere in the TM camps:

    It says that Montazeri and Gucci got into into an argument in the change rooms after the Turkmenistan game. All the players were obviously upset with the result and Montazeri was going on with one of the players (not mentioned who) about the poor performance of TM and the players.

    This goes on for a while until Gucci jumps in and tells Montazeri to stop it and if they were going to do anything, they should have done it on the field and during the game. Then Montazeri tells Gucci that this is none of his business.

    The argument ensues with Gucci who's clearly upset about being a bench-warmer and other players jump in to stop the argument, but Montazeri turns around and tells other players, "this guy has been here for two days, why is he talking like this".

    Since this is going on in front of all the players, particularly the young ones, the more experienced players eventually jump in and tell the two to stop arguing, at least in front of the younger players.

    منتظری در لحظه عصبانیت می گوید قوچان نژاد دو روز است به تیم ملی آمده و نباید اینطور حرف بزند!

    به گزارش خبرگزاری خبرآنلاین؛ بعد از بازی ایران و ترکمنستان. بازیکنان خسته و ناراحت هستند. تیم ملی موفق نشده حریف ضعیف خود را شکست دهد. پژمان منتظری در گوشه ای از رختکن همراه با یکی از بازیکنان تیم ملی به گلایه از عملکرد بازیکنان و تیم می پردازد. اکثر بازیکنان ناراحت هستند و واکنشی نشان نمی دهد اما رضا قوچان نژاد وارد بحث می شود: بس کن دیگه. اگه می خواستیم کاری کنیم باید تو زمین می کردیم. تمومش کن. این حرف های گوچی باعث تعجب منتظری می شود و به رضا می گوید این بحث ها ارتباطی به او ندارد. قوچان نژاد هم گویا از عملکرد خود و همینطور نیمکت نشینی اش خیلی راضی نیست. بازیکنان دیگر واسطه می شوند تا بحث بین آنها تمام می شود اما منتظری که شدیدا از دست قوچان نژاد دلخور است، می گوید: دو روز است آمده، چرا اینطوری حرف می زند؟! این بحث ها جلوی بازیکنان جوان تیم صورت می گیرد و اکثر با تجربه ها می گویند بهتر است آنها ساکت باشند و حداقل جلوی جوان ها با هم چنین بحثی نکنند.
    Horrible.

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    Hamino kam dashtim. The one thinh which worked 100% and was perfect, the friendship among team, players and staff, and now they fight.

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    And there you have it folks!:) "The whole friendly atmosphere at TM camps is now in question"... because 2 out of the 23 players had a heated verbal exchange in the locker room right after a frustrating match and were told to calm down by other experienced players...

    The team is imploding before our eyes, people!! Is CQ doing this on purpose!!?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bi-honar View Post
    Unfortunately, more bad news re: TM from Khabar Online via Footbalitarin putting in question the whole "friendly' atmosphere in the TM camps:

    It says that Montazeri and Gucci got into into an argument in the change rooms after the Turkmenistan game. All the players were obviously upset with the result and Montazeri was going on with one of the players (not mentioned who) about the poor performance of TM and the players.

    This goes on for a while until Gucci jumps in and tells Montazeri to stop it and if they were going to do anything, they should have done it on the field and during the game. Then Montazeri tells Gucci that this is none of his business.

    The argument ensues with Gucci who's clearly upset about being a bench-warmer and other players jump in to stop the argument, but Montazeri turns around and tells other players, "this guy has been here for two days, why is he talking like this".

    Since this is going on in front of all the players, particularly the young ones, the more experienced players eventually jump in and tell the two to stop arguing, at least in front of the younger players.

    منتظری در لحظه عصبانیت می گوید قوچان نژاد دو روز است به تیم ملی آمده و نباید اینطور حرف بزند!

    به گزارش خبرگزاری خبرآنلاین؛ بعد از بازی ایران و ترکمنستان. بازیکنان خسته و ناراحت هستند. تیم ملی موفق نشده حریف ضعیف خود را شکست دهد. پژمان منتظری در گوشه ای از رختکن همراه با یکی از بازیکنان تیم ملی به گلایه از عملکرد بازیکنان و تیم می پردازد. اکثر بازیکنان ناراحت هستند و واکنشی نشان نمی دهد اما رضا قوچان نژاد وارد بحث می شود: بس کن دیگه. اگه می خواستیم کاری کنیم باید تو زمین می کردیم. تمومش کن. این حرف های گوچی باعث تعجب منتظری می شود و به رضا می گوید این بحث ها ارتباطی به او ندارد. قوچان نژاد هم گویا از عملکرد خود و همینطور نیمکت نشینی اش خیلی راضی نیست. بازیکنان دیگر واسطه می شوند تا بحث بین آنها تمام می شود اما منتظری که شدیدا از دست قوچان نژاد دلخور است، می گوید: دو روز است آمده، چرا اینطوری حرف می زند؟! این بحث ها جلوی بازیکنان جوان تیم صورت می گیرد و اکثر با تجربه ها می گویند بهتر است آنها ساکت باشند و حداقل جلوی جوان ها با هم چنین بحثی نکنند.
    That's actually great. Yes it fucking is.
    This has nothing to do with friendly atmosphere. This is fucking football and having heated arguments in the locker room is fucking part of the game after the piss poor result vs Turkmenistan.
    I salut Montazeri for speaking out loud.
    You have fights and arguments in EVERY FUCKING team on the planet. From Bundesliga to La Liga. Just like in a relationship, you have to fight (not physically) to be able to settle things.

    The sun can only shine after a heavy thunder&lightning.
    IRI's politics is no different than handling a pressure cooker ..... As the pressure builds up, you slowly let the steam out just a tad bit so that you don't see overflow, and once the pressure from below is less, you put the lid down again and raise the temperature.

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    Sucks that they have to fight eachother, but it's just good if they're incredibly dissapointed in themselves, since then these kinds of result will most likely be in the back of our players head next time they enter the field, and that will hopefully increase our chances of winning.

    And @ at the article having to point out that Gucci is mad cause he is a benchwarmer..

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    seriously are you guys 10 year old girls there is no club in the world that does not have arguements after matches, infact if our players weren't frustrated and didn't argue with each other after a 1-1 draw to turkmenistan i would be quite worried

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    If true then Montazeri az chesham oftad, what an arrogant response. We need none of that, where was Ando? The cap needs to intervene much quicker.

    Positive discussions post game are GREAT but not "tikke andakhtan"

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    Quote Originally Posted by jahandoost View Post
    If true then Montazeri az chesham oftad, what an arrogant response. We need none of that, where was Ando? The cap needs to intervene much quicker.

    Positive discussions post game are GREAT but not "tikke andakhtan"
    Gucci jumped into their argument and told Montazeri to be silent (Goft bas kon saket bash). This was the rudeness of Gucci to call a veteran like that, when montazeri was talking to someone else. Gucci received what he deserved. When you butt in others people argument and order them to shut up, that is what you get.

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