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Originally Posted by Darloc

lol, you are seriously comparing someone like Hashemian,Daei or Mahdavikia with Dejagah ? Those guys were class, Dejagah is not very far away but definitely level below.

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I don't know about that one. I mean Dejagah was pivotal in the 2 seasons he played for Fulham in one of the toughest and most talented leagues in Europe. I think money limited his chances of staying in Europe.

Could it be possible that some of you are confusing Reza Fazeli with Human Afazeli?

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Originally Posted by Martin-Reza

Could it be possible that some of you are confusing Reza Fazeli with Human Afazeli?

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LOL I think many are. Afazeli is the coach while Fazeli is a a player agent.

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Originally Posted by Tiger_Irooni

I wonder what a loser like Houman Khepel doing around TM for that long ? this is beyond imagination .year after year he find way to be around TM ! this is a guy which his best achievement as coach is coaching shahab zanjan !what is his knowledge speaking English ? on ro ke challangar ham balade ..

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Originally Posted by O-ZoNe

I don't know about that one. I mean Dejagah was pivotal in the 2 seasons he played for Fulham in one of the toughest and most talented leagues in Europe. I think money limited his chances of staying in Europe.

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Names like Mahdavikia,Hashemian and Daei have proven season after season in Europe that they are unique Iranian players. Like i said, Dejagah is a professional footballer and he has the basic professional skills, he is brought up according to European football standards and so on but the guy is a level or two below the likes of Mahdavikia,Daei,Hashemian (when they were playing in Europe)

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Originally Posted by Darloc

Names like Mahdavikia,Hashemian and Daei have proven season after season in Europe that they are unique Iranian players. Like i said, Dejagah is a professional footballer and he has the basic professional skills, he is brought up according to European football standards and so on but the guy is a level or two below the likes of Mahdavikia,Daei,Hashemian (when they were playing in Europe)

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I love all the names you mentioned, but none of those guys were regular starters on a Bundesliga championship team...Dejagah was. Daei was the closest for Bayern but he wasn't a regular. None of those guys also made it to the EPL, which is by far a stronger league than the Bundesliga. I am not sure Dejagah in his prime is any less skilled than the names mentioned above in their prime. If you think about it, Daei and Hashemian were strikers, and so on goals, they really should be ahead of Dejagah. In terms of MVP to their teams...you betchya that Bayern could have survived without Daie, not sure Fulham or Wolfsburg would have done so without Dejagah...maybe MKia at Hamburg he was an MVP, but that's about it.

Dejagah and co cannot be mentioned in the same sentence as our past 2006 legionnaires (BuLi Iranians, Daei ect..). Different class, different level.

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Originally Posted by O-ZoNe

I love all the names you mentioned, but none of those guys were regular starters on a Bundesliga championship team...Dejagah was. Daei was the closest for Bayern but he wasn't a regular. None of those guys also made it to the EPL, which is by far a stronger league than the Bundesliga. I am not sure Dejagah in his prime is any less skilled than the names mentioned above in their prime. If you think about it, Daei and Hashemian were strikers, and so on goals, they really should be ahead of Dejagah. In terms of MVP to their teams...you betchya that Bayern could have survived without Daie, not sure Fulham or Wolfsburg would have done so without Dejagah...maybe MKia at Hamburg he was an MVP, but that's about it.

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Still not convinced, in terms of influence Dejagah is nowhere as Mahdavikia (Kia was not a striker, he was a winger).

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Originally Posted by Zandi360

Dejagah and co cannot be mentioned in the same sentence as our past 2006 legionnaires (BuLi Iranians, Daei ect..). Different class, different level.

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Those guys were legendary, like once in a 50 years (or more) such footballers will appear.

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Originally Posted by Darloc

Still not convinced, in terms of influence Dejagah is nowhere as Mahdavikia (Kia was not a striker, he was a winger).

Those guys were legendary, like once in a 50 years (or more) such footballers will appear.

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Legends are defined by the generation that cheered for them. Ask my father and he will say Kia, Azizi, Daie, Hashemian have nothing on the likes of Ghayeghran, Parvin, Gelichkhani, and so forth. The younger kids of this generation might find Dejagah, Gucci, Neku and Teymourian and Karimi as the legends. Sadly we forget our past, and always complain about our present, and hope for something magical for our future.

On paper, I believe the team of WC 14 is stronger than the team of WC 06. I believe our team play, fitness, and skill level were all much better than in 06 leading up to both WC.

And if this current squad wins AC...trust me in 10 years we will be comparing the players like Azmoun, Ezzatollahi and ARJ to the likes of Gucci and Dejagah...

Nekounam is surely a legend, he has served his country for over 143 times and he represented Iran also in world's best league La Liga for few good years. What else should he do to be classified as legend? He is one for sure. Not to mention his influential goals during ACQ, WCQ etc.