Iran Vs. Madagascar Postmatch discussion

[keyvan93]

Guys, im really sorry to say this, but as much as i love our TM, we simply SUCK, i mean we are below ZERO.

Today our team played MADAGASCAR, a team that barely exists! Im sure 90% of the worlds football fans have never heard of this team, and the ranking of 173 or something is just stating the obvious!

yeah sure, our players are tired, we just had a camp, we have a new coach etc etc etc, but im sorry im not gonna buy this kind of bullshit!

In a normal day we should have TRASHED this team 5-0 at least! But today Madagascar seamed like Barcelona! We were totally outplayed in the second half. This was a disaster and i was ashamed of our team today, we showed no game plan, no defensive plan, no offensive plan, we could'nt keep the ball, we couldn't even pass! We had nothing! Zip, ZERO!

Im so angry right now i dont even know what to say!

What do you guys think? Cause with this kind of football i think we will lose both legs against Maldives....I hate to say it but i think im even gonna bet on that on the internet and win some good money!

[iran5678]

People who are critisizing karimi probably see that he was not the worst player on the field.

On the other hand if we needed khatbari or any other players that were suggested by members here for playing better football against Madagascar, then we realize that TM did not do such bad job at AC!

All in all this whole thing shows that how much the level of our players and football as a whole has dropped compared to few years back. And back then our players did not recieve such huge salaries.

It would take more than few years for Quirez to build a descent team on the condition that our palyers are also responsive and adapt to his tactics, and that is the bigger problem!

It would be a waste of time to analyze this TM and its games since they hardly showed any reasonable football. We can only hope for improvements that results in less embaressment for our football.

[Doctor DOOM]

FIRST HALF –

Nothing much to brag about. A very mediocre performance. And I cant even bring the excuse of “let them get coordinated”, coz the bulk of the line up has been playing with each others for years now and even the defense has been in one club! So that excuse is out.

They seem to be playing a 4-3-3 formation, with karimi way too deep, which is why we didn’t see much playmaking by him. Next to him are Pejman Nouri who is another defensive player with only Bao a few paces in front of them. But Bao, while a decent player, isn’t exactly known for his playmaking which compels us to ask why Hadadifar is sitting out and why Mobaali was dropped. Well, I think we all got our answer and got an idea of what to expect if we don’t use these two and play karimi too deep.

For years (after he came back from Bayern) I have been impressed by karimi’s ability to win the ball back in 1 on 1’s. this, at that time, was a new side of him and he has shown to be very adept in this. Today’s high rate of re-possessions by him underlines this.

Dropping Reza Nowroozi for Hadi nowroozi??? … well, need I say anything more. Lets hope we got our answer on this issue too.
I hope CQ keeps the Ansarifard-Oladi duo up front a bit longer. I think this pair shows a lot of potential and it is worth investing on.


among the positives, I must say Hajsafi is doing well going forward. But he was always good at that. his weakness has been his defending under pressure. but this opponent is not going to test him and we need to check him out against more decent opposition.


another positive is the movement of the team (the front 4-5 players at least, with Heidari & hajsafi adding to them). they seem to move quicker and find spaces better. I hope this trend continues and we see this become a habit for our players. it was promising so far.



overall, an unsatisfactory first half.


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SECOND HALF -


This half also didn’t offer much in terms of quality and in fact as it wore on, the quality got lower and lower. A very alarming matter as we were playing the world’s 138th team.


If we were showing this level of performance against a top 30 team, I wouldn’t have minded it. But 138th? That’s abysmal. Especially when we allowed this many freekicks right in front of our box and actually allowed a few dangerous moments and chances at our goal! now, that's scary


Another issue was the number of chances our forwards and midfielders got and they wasted it in most immature, amateurish manner!


Ansarifard was the big surprise of the game for me. Not only did he waste so many great chances he got (2-3 of them were literally 1 on 1’s which he scoffed terribly) but also he didn’t do well as a part of the team, be it when he tried to defend or come back and receive balls. I guess those who thought Reza Nowroozi didn’t deserve to be in the team got their answer.


I was seeing Pouladi play at LB for the first time and he, like hajsafi looked good going forward. But again, like hajsafi, he is more a midfielder so it isn’t a surprise to see him do well up front. It is when we see them defend at the back that leaves a lot to be desired. We shall see more on this as we play better teams.

CQ’s first game wasn’t impressive at all. I put it down to initial jitters of an unfamiliar coach in unfamiliar surroundings and players. But even this game shd have given him (and us) plenty to think about and consider when picking the players for a game.

[teammelli1]

KAFFASHIAN HAYA KON!!! SABZIFOROOSHI VA KON!!! :rofl:

[Silverton1990]

KAFFASHIAN HAYA KON!!! SABZIFOROOSHI VA KON!!! :rofl:
:rofl: :rofl:

[euphory]

we have lack of technicaly skilled players and most of all the lack of mind game and playing creative as a team, it seems like they dont know wtf to do with the ball when creating a chance, they need an iq test..ooo not to mention how awfull there shooting is

[Persianking]

Problem is that we think just because we have a decent international coach now, we are automatically going to win the WC and all issues are suddenly sloved.

Sorry, but the very MAIN problem (the whole IFF) exists and as long as these IR criminals breathe in our country, there will be no major progress, whoever the coach might be...simple as that.

That being sad, this was just a meaningless friendly after 5 or 6 months and CQ's first offical match, so no need to exaggerate IMO, at least not because of the match today.

[1908]

this is a friendly ... its all good ...
the game would b a diff story if ansarifard actually scored ama what to do ..his overrated ...the way people make him sound is as if his Neymar ...oh well im sure CQ has a clear idea who 2 play and not 2 play ....

[euphory]

if we had more players like khalatbari and hadadifar

[iran5678]

Torabian had said before that we would not see any fancy works by the players instead a more one touch passes and team work in this game.

Fine, but that should be thaught at junior levels when the players are shaping up?

For 23+ players that are what they are, a wise coach would to try realize their abilities and use them in the best possible manner to get results.

These players are very little adaptive to tactics that they are not used to, and the coach should not try to change their mentality rather should try to manage their mentalities and give them a sense of direction and teach them how to use their skils in the best possible way to their advantage.

[football.club]

1-0 win today for Carlos Q against Madagascar. TM did a very bad performance and the quality was below the level of a pre-season game between two very mediocre (club) teams.

3 OF THE MAIN PROBLEMS-
- communication problems!
- concentration problems!
- Passing problems! too many wrong passes, too slow.

I don´t expect so much in an exhibition game against Madagascar but I hope they can learn from their misstakes and improve.

[Jiggy]

Ansarifard was the Worst player !!!! this guy sucks !!! and he is irans best talent ? OMG :fear: :fear: :fear:

[Karimi 8]

Nekounam and andos hold on the defensive midfield
line was really what stood out too me. I love how much work
pejman puts every game, like to see him some more. I also felt the absence of a player like rezaei or khalatbari on the wings. I Don't really buy the "havnt bounded" thing as a excuse either, knowing how long some players have played together in tm and in clubs. I believe in CQ but out whole foundation to football is bad, I don't think this result was his fault at all he had to test players some more. We will improve with trust !!

[maij]

از شعار علیه کفاشیان تا دعوت بازیکن تیم ملی به استقلال/ حوصله تماشاگران سر رفت! سطح کیفی دیدار تدارکاتی تیم های ملی فوتبال ایران و ماداگاسکار آنقدر پایین بود که حوصله تماشاگران سر رفت و انواع شعارهای رنگارنگ را سر دادند. به گزارش خبرنگار مهر، تیم ملی فوتبال کشورمان در حالی از ساعت 19:30 امروز در ورزشگاه آزادی به مصاف ماداگاسکار رفت که از حمایت کمتر از هشت هزار تماشاگر بهره می برد.
این بازی حواشی دیگری هم داشت که در زیر بدان اشاره می شود:
* از بین مسئولان فدراسیون فوتبال تنها مهدی تاج، نایب رئیس فدراسیون در ورزشگاه آزادی حاضر بود. تاج از داخل جایگاه ویژه ورزشگاه بازی ملی پوشان فوتبال کشورمان را دنبال می کرد.
* جایگاه خبرنگاران ورزشگاه آزادی به نسبت گذشته تغییراتی کرده است. نرده های ضلع جنوبی جایگاه خبرنگاران برداشته شده است تا حاضرین در این محل بدون مشکل بازی را تماشا کنند.
* در کنار زمین چمن ورزشگاه آزادی نیز تغییراتی در جایگاه ناظران ایجاد شده و این جایگاه کلا تغییر کرده است.
* تیم ماداگاسکار ظاهرا برای بازی با تیم ملی فوتبال کشورمان آماده نبوده است، چرا که البسه بازیکنان این تیم با هم هماهنگی نداشت.
* استقبال تماشاگران از این بازی چندان چشمگیر نبود. از آنجائیکه بلیت فروشی برای این بازی صورت نگرفته بود، تماشاگران با هدایت نیروهای انتظامی و حراست حاضر در ورزشگاه به سکوهای جایگاه و مقابل جایگاه هدایت شدند.
* دوربین عنکبوتی ورزشگاه آزادی خاموش بود و کار نمی کرد. ظاهرا اهمیت دیدارهایی که در این ورزشگاه برگزار می شود، در روشن شدن این دوربین تاثیرگذار است.
* از دقایق ابتدایی مسابقه امروز نورافکن*های ورزشگاه آزادی روشن بود.
* تماشاگران حاضر در ورزشگاه امروز کمتر تیم*های محبوب خود را تشویق کردند اما در میان تشویق*های آنها گاهگاهی شعارهای رنگی شنیده می شد. مانند دعوت از خسرو حیدری برای حضور در استقلال، تشویق علی دایی و ... .
* مسعود شجاعی بازیکن آسیب دیده فوتبال ایران امروز با حضور در ورزشگاه آزادی تماشاگر بازی تیم ملی کشورمان بود.
* در بین دو نیمه بازیکنان ذخیره تیم ماداگاسکار با حضور در زمین بدن*های خود را گرم کردند.
* در جریان بازی نمازی مربی تیم ملی فوتبال کشورمان با حضور در کنار زمین بازیکنان را هدایت می کرد.
* سعید بخشی زاده داور چهارم بازی در جریان نیمه دوم به سرمربی تیم ماداگاسکار تذکر داد که از روی نیمکت بازی را دنبال کند.
* علی کریمی، کاپیتان تیم ملی فوتبال کشورمان در زمیان خروج از زمین بشدت از سوی تماشاگران مورد تشویق قرار گرفت.
* در دقایق پایانی بازی تماشاگران حاضر در ورزشگاه علیه علی کفاشیان شعار دادند و خواهان وداع او با تیم ملی شدند.
* گروهی از تماشاگران در دقایق پایانی بازی تیم ماداگاسکار را تشویق کردند.
* شعار "بازیکن بی غیرت نمی خواهیم" هم در ورزشگاه شنیده می شد.

[saeed_noro]

Our players are lazy. lazy to defend, to attack, to think with an high IQ, to run, to create, to try everything......one word lazy.....

Beside Hajsafi, has potential to become beter, and Nouri, who runs and fights well, there were no positive things. even the goal was not an tactical move, Madagascard palyer did not see such an throw in before. They were shocked, and it was the first big throw in, which landed in the goal, i am sure, after 3,4 throw in, this would NOT be the case so easily.

We will have troubles to qualify, probably we will win vs. maledives and draw them there :cool: but in the next rounds, we must be...let´s say it in one word again....not lazy..!

[AKA MASHSAEED]

PLEASE GUYS STOP ALL THIS NOW,
cq will take us to promise land....

[soniq]

PLEASE GUYS STOP ALL THIS NOW,
cq will take us to promise land....

Israel here we come.....

[Martin-Reza]

Disappointing display and result, but what shall we expect at this stage of Queiroz' term and during the IPL summer break.

Obviously Queiroz is still experimenting. I guess with Nekounam, Khalatbari and probanly Teymourian returning against Maledives, we will see an already improved performance.

[AllStarMomo]

KAFFASHIAN HAYA KON!!! SABZIFOROOSHI VA KON!!! :rofl:

Did the fans say this? hahaha^^

The fans said what i felt, with this word:

BIGHEYRAT! BIGHERAT! BIGHEYRAT!

And we really want to go to WC 2014?

[keyvan93]

Did the fans say this? hahaha^^

The fans said what i felt, with this word:

BIGHEYRAT! BIGHERAT! BIGHEYRAT!

And we really want to go to WC 2014?
I actually didn't like it when the fans called Ansarifard Bigheyrat after missing a good chance....

[goozmachine]

Even though we couldn't finish chances and played like shit, Madagascar has actually fared well against teams like Nigeria and South Africa, losing only 2-0 and 1-0 to both respectively. I think that the FIFA ranking is misleading, but we definitely should have won by a 4-0 margin given our players terrible finishing.

[Omids]

KAFFASHIAN HAYA KON!!! SABZIFOROOSHI VA KON!!! :rofl:

When i read this first i read it as:

KAFFASHIAN HAYA KON!!! SABZIFOROOSHI O KUN!!!

maybe thats what i wanted to hear

:D :D

[akahnemu]

I don't mind slogans against Kaffashian but slogans against the players were really ridiculous, calling them 'bigheyrat'!

[arasradio]

Relax guys
A WIN IS A WIN
I know you all expected a huge margin of 10-0 against Madagascar thinking that they are ranked below 100. what you do not consider this team has to play teams like South Africa, Nigeria and Angola while we play teams like Kyrgyzstan or Maldives :)
Madagascar has lost to Nigeria 1-0 recently and that is a good result. in addition to this, remember this is a friendly with our B team on the field.

However, I have to agree that this game was super funny. Imagine if for instance couple of aliens came from moon to see this game without knowing what it was all about lol ...
they would think the goal of the game is: Whichever team hits the ball to the post the most, is the winner ;) ... Unlucky.. It seemed they did not take the goalie seriously and they did not play at their highest level. i am sure things will changes as our team starts playing official games. good that we have to first practice with Maldives. Otherwise with this uncoordinated style (Specially in the front) we may even lose to North Korea :)

One bad news, now that we did not trash a weaker team (170th) with many goals in a home game, we will drop in FIFA ranking more.



I don't mind slogans against Kaffashian but slogans against the players were really ridiculous, calling them 'bigheyrat'!

I totally agree with you. Screw Kafashian and his organization. However, our great players must be protected against this mafia that targets players. this has to be stopped before our team gets to the next round of qualifying.

[BacheLot]

Disappointing, poor performance..! This TM still needs a few more friendlies to get their shitt together..!
With Maldives game approaching so soon, Perhaps CQ should stick it out with a less experimental squad @ home ..!
We can't afford a mishap @ home & expect to come from behind or have to win @ Maldives in the shape we are in ATM ..!
In the next stage of qualifications he can revert back experimenting again with more of a group format & much more time in his disposal for future test matches..!
Today, I don't think the hot weather conditions helped the pace of the game & our players seemed super tired from an intensive prep camp & were a bit confused of their responsibilities on pitch and not used to playing according CQ wishes..! Multiple substitutions didn't help the cause as well..!
These guys need a few days of R&R before facing Maldives ..! That's for sure..! Perhaps one final friendly game vs Omid would be helpful too..!

[Leopard]

I recommend a friendly match between TM and Esteghlal since many esteghlal players are not on TM.

Also I would ask Rahmati to be on TM side first half and on Esteghlal side second half. And also no foreign players from Esteghlaal would be used for the match.
This will be a good game and it may be a way to discover a few things. I am sure most of you know.

[futbol>>>IRAN]

even though it was disappointing its important not to panic , there is still work to be done.

[Leopard]

by the way those fans are insulting sabziforooshhaa raa. This is not good for a civilized society.
Without sabzi foroosh they would be eating ....
Khak bar sare in soosoolhaaye tehrani who only think of number of goals and say things without thinking.

The video of the matches Ansarifard has played should be reviewed and a team psychologist needs to talk to him to see why he is not himslef on the frield and why he has been nervous.
This is normal for some young players at international level and they need help.

[AKA MASHSAEED]

esteghlal sooooooooooooooorakheh

i think borhani should be called up

[AKA MASHSAEED]

by the way those fans are insulting sabziforooshhaa raa. This is not good for a civilized society.
Without sabzi foroosh they would be eating ....
Khak bar sare in soosoolhaaye tehrani who only think of number of goals and say things without thinking.

sabziforoosha make more money then majority of people there.

[Leopard]

Borhani may be needed for TM. He may do better than Ansarifard. He has no fear of geting hurt. Ansarifard may be afraid of potential injury.
The best way to find out is the friendly game between Esteghlal and TM.
This is the most logical thing to do and I hope I am not the only one to think of it. If you reach CQ, suggest it to him, or else if you are esteghlali suggest it to your team manager.

[Your Cash]

I wonder what our current team with this kind of play would do against Japanese women's national team.......:goal: :goal:

[darius3rd]

Fans chanting at 80th minute, Kaffashian haya kon ---team mellio raha kon
Fans are cheering for Madagascar 84th minute.
minute 86th fans chanting: Kafashian haya kon --- sabzi foroushi va kon lolol

minute 87 great chance missed by madagascar while fan chanting for ALI DAEI!!!!
89th minute ansarifar missed a really good chance, fans: bi gheyrat bi gheyrat
ref blows the whistle while fans are chanting bi gheyrat bi gheyrat....


honestly its not that hard too believe that Maldives might be a little tough for us. we are very weak

[OFFSIDE_1]

all right guys ..... get a grip ...... this was a meaningless friendly against a low rated opponent. It doesn't matter if the nucleus of the team has played together. It still takes a few games for the team to gel. We will beat the Maldives with a wide margin ..... I predict 3 goals on the Plus side

[Keano]

I didn't get a chance to watch the game, bit going by most of the posters' comments apparently we did not impress which is fine to me, this is just a meaningless friendly, why do we take all these friendlies so serious? maybe this itself tells about why most TM coaches try to avoid strong opponents encounter, thus often ending up playing at best mediocre teams!

In friendlies real coaches try different lineups and formations, in an effort to come up with a conclusion and solution for teams' shortcomings, in CQ's case it's even a much needed and legit reason to use such tactics in order to familiarize himself with our football and footballers, unless he tries pretty much everything he and his team can produce, he won't be able to address and determine what the flaws as well as the positive elements of his team are.

Just leave the man alone for at least 6 months to 1 year, let him build up his team, then judge him and his team! apparently the fans once again chanted anti-TM slogans, resenting the team and its coach, such shameful behavior from Iranian fans once again. We have zero tolerance towards deficiency and shortcomings, overly emotional, judgmental and impulsive football fans and people in general!

Just take a deep breath and put a smile on your face for at least we won the international friendly (preparatory) match!

Don't worry, just be happy, cuz every little thing, gonna be alright!

http://www.bia2.com/forum/public/style_emoticons/default/dance.gif

[mash_ali]

I didn't get a chance to watch the game, bit going by most of the posters' comments apparently we did not impress which is fine to me, this is just a meaningless friendly, why do we take all these friendlies so serious? maybe this itself tells about why most TM coaches try to avoid strong opponents encounter, thus often ending up playing at best mediocre teams!
In friendlies real coaches try different lineups and formations, in an effort to come up with a conclusion and solution for teams' shortcomings, in CQ's case it's even a much needed and legit reason to use such tactics in order to familiarize himself with our football and footballers, unless he tries pretty much everything he and his team can produce, he won't be able to address and determine what the flaws as well as the positive elements of his team are.
Just leave the man alone for at least 6 months to 1 year, let him build up his team, then judge him and his team! apparently the fans once again chanted anti-TM slogans, resenting the team and its coach, such shameful behavior from Iranian fans once again. We have zero tolerance towards deficiency and shortcomings, overly emotional, judgmental and impulsive football fans and people in general!
Just take a deep breath and put a smile on your face for at least we won the international friendly (preparatory) match!
Don't worry, just be happy, cuz every little thing, gonna be alright!
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:bow: :bow:
absolutely spot on
imagine one of you was appointed head coach of Afghanistan right now, would you know any of the players, NO, and to FAMILIARIZE yourself you would have to experiment with players in FRIENDLIES, and to reach a good understanding you need TIME.

for now as keano mentioned just be happy:D

http://youtu.be/JmjOkeS9Azo

[Ali]

I didnt watch the match unfortunately, bud judging by the highlights, we had some nice plays and passing which was very good to see. On a better day nouri ansarifard and oladi would have each scored 1 or 2 and we would have won by more...it was sad how the fans called ansarifard bigheyrat - when one misses a chance the last thing he needs is the fans making him feel worst and draining his confidence more. hopefully he will improve and make a good duo with Oladi. Our defense had some hiccups and CQ really needs to work on it because against a proper team we would have conceded atleast a few.

One thing I have to say though...Karimi shire!

[Navid H]

The Good
- I thought Hadadifar did a good job of coming in and actually having some composure on the ball in defensive midfield to allow us to have some possession and free karimi further up the field.

- Rahmati and the defense...i guess. They didnt have much to do, but they were pretty solid until some of the late stages when it almost seemed like they were bored.

The Bad
- Something we all need to realize about karimi is that he has lost A LOT of his speed, so the days of him single-handedly breaking down defenses is long gone. He is still valuable to the team though, because he is still probably our best passer and playmaker. When he was given more freedom in the second half, I thought he played better.

- Nouri, Ansarifard, Bao, Daghighi. I put these guys here instead of in ugly, because they played hard, but just had horrible days. I dont think Bao or Daghighi are TM material. Ansarifard and Nouri did well to get into scoring position, but their finishing was atrocious.

The Ugly
- Norouzi is awful. He reminds me of a more selfish khatibi. He is physically weak, holds on to the ball for too long, doesnt contribute anything defensively, and embodies everything that is wrong with the modern Iranian player.

- Oladi was also absolutely horrific. I can deal with missing chances, but I cant deal with selfishness and laziness.

This team desperately needs nekounam and khalatbari.

This would be my lineup for the Maldives game.
----------Rahmati--------------
Hajsafi-Hosseini-Aghili-Heydari
-----------Ando----------------
----Hadadifar---Nekounam----
-Khalatbari-------------Karimi-
----------Ansarifard------------

[Persianking]

Well, I had to watch few scences over and over again to make the Highlights and this is what I have to say:

I believe we are exaggerating a bit regarding Ansarifard. Sure, his misses were horrible and I am not trying to ignore that, but have you seen the chances he created? Ansarifard was part of many TM attacks, he often played a key role and was one of the most dangerous players on the field. His passes were accurate, he controlled the ball well and knew how to position himself. Also lets not forget that the best chance of the whole match was created by him through a nice assist at the end of the first half, but unfortunately Nouri easily messed up the 1vs1.

So his overall performance wasnt that bad IMO, but his misses unfortunately make the "front line" I guess like always, and we tend to forget the rest.

Please watch the highlights of the match here to see what I mean:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcrebSjrWu4

He badly needs to move to europe as soon as possible, else we will have just another Borhani, just another wasted talent. In Iran he simply cant & wont improve with such government and federation and will stay at the same level he is now. It was a BIG mistake IMO to stay in Saipa, because now he is still in Iran, still playing for a small club and on top of that isnt even able to play in ACL at least. Baba he needs to gain more expierence and needs more variety, I am very afraid of his current situation...

We make our players to stars, we make them look like kings, but as soon as they are going through a diffcult time and need our support the most, we easily let them down and start to bash him.
Thats the case here, now he is called overrated and "shit" by some people, but well...

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Regarding Karimi:

His position was too defensive and I always hate him to see him there. Not that he plays bad there, actually he had a decent game IMO and some good tackles, but his offensive quality is what we need the most in TM. Whenever he was a bit upfront he once again gave some brillant passes to the team and one move by him can change a lot of things. This is by far not the Karimi of 2004 of course, some people expect to much, but still he is without a doubt one of the better playmakers we have and I dont see any problem to use him until 2014, it is not like we have 10000 of other options left. Cant wait to see him in Perspolis...

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Haddadifar MUST be TM starter, case closed.

[footballcrazy10]

When it comes to football, we have very very little freedom, the more it progresses like this, the more worse we will get as it does, because the players will play with more pressure each time. Perfect example, compair and older tm to a newer one, and older tm would destroy a new tm. At least they could finish.

[persiangodfather]

The Good
- I thought Hadadifar did a good job of coming in and actually having some composure on the ball in defensive midfield to allow us to have some possession and free karimi further up the field.
- Rahmati and the defense...i guess. They didnt have much to do, but they were pretty solid until some of the late stages when it almost seemed like they were bored.
The Bad
- Something we all need to realize about karimi is that he has lost A LOT of his speed, so the days of him single-handedly breaking down defenses is long gone. He is still valuable to the team though, because he is still probably our best passer and playmaker. When he was given more freedom in the second half, I thought he played better.
- Nouri, Ansarifard, Bao, Daghighi. I put these guys here instead of in ugly, because they played hard, but just had horrible days. I dont think Bao or Daghighi are TM material. Ansarifard and Nouri did well to get into scoring position, but their finishing was atrocious.
The Ugly
- Norouzi is awful. He reminds me of a more selfish khatibi. He is physically weak, holds on to the ball for too long, doesnt contribute anything defensively, and embodies everything that is wrong with the modern Iranian player.
- Oladi was also absolutely horrific. I can deal with missing chances, but I cant deal with selfishness and laziness.
This team desperately needs nekounam and khalatbari.
This would be my lineup for the Maldives game.

----Hadadifar---Nekounam----
-Khalatbari-------------Karimi-
----------Ansarifard------------

----------Rahmati--------------
Hajsafi-Hosseini-Aghili-Heydari
-----------Ando-----Nekounam---
GH Rezaei-------Khalatbary------Karimi
-----------Ansarifard (afshin) (gholami)

fixed :)

[soheil86]

The Good
- I thought Hadadifar did a good job of coming in and actually having some composure on the ball in defensive midfield to allow us to have some possession and free karimi further up the field.
- Rahmati and the defense...i guess. They didnt have much to do, but they were pretty solid until some of the late stages when it almost seemed like they were bored.
The Bad
- Something we all need to realize about karimi is that he has lost A LOT of his speed, so the days of him single-handedly breaking down defenses is long gone. He is still valuable to the team though, because he is still probably our best passer and playmaker. When he was given more freedom in the second half, I thought he played better.
- Nouri, Ansarifard, Bao, Daghighi. I put these guys here instead of in ugly, because they played hard, but just had horrible days. I dont think Bao or Daghighi are TM material. Ansarifard and Nouri did well to get into scoring position, but their finishing was atrocious.
The Ugly
- Norouzi is awful. He reminds me of a more selfish khatibi. He is physically weak, holds on to the ball for too long, doesnt contribute anything defensively, and embodies everything that is wrong with the modern Iranian player.
- Oladi was also absolutely horrific. I can deal with missing chances, but I cant deal with selfishness and laziness.
This team desperately needs nekounam and khalatbari.
This would be my lineup for the Maldives game.
----------Rahmati--------------
Hajsafi-Hosseini-Aghili-Heydari
-----------Ando----------------
----Hadadifar---Nekounam----
-Khalatbari-------------Karimi-
----------Ansarifard------------

karimi has no pace so he MUST play in the middle. and as long as ansaritard doesnt change his attitude, he wont get anywhere. he has no fire in him, his body language seems he is not interested in the match. fans dont call him bigheirat out of thin air, there is a reason. and oladi i was so disgusted by his laziness against madagascar that i think mr.Q should drop him immediately as a sign of intent. when daei and azizi used to play, you would see the hunger, the fight, the willingness to win, the never say die attitude. when you see oladi and ansarifard, you see two bacheh soosools that are too cheap to pay for their military so that they can go to europe. my pick for the striker position is GHOLAMI, he may not have half the talent of others, but he is a ****ING LION.

[persiangodfather]

karimi has no pace so he MUST play in the middle. and as long as ansaritard doesnt change his attitude, he wont get anywhere. he has no fire in him, his body language seems he is not interested in the match. fans dont call him bigheirat out of thin air, there is a reason. and oladi i was so disgusted by his laziness against madagascar that i think mr.Q should drop him immediately as a sign of intent. when daei and azizi used to play, you would see the hunger, the fight, the willingness to win, the never say die attitude. when you see oladi and ansarifard, you see two bacheh soosools that are too cheap to pay for their military so that they can go to europe. my pick for the striker position is GHOLAMI, he may not have half the talent of others, but he is a ****ING LION.

we need a striker from qazvin!! too many bache soosol e tehrooni on the team

[fairplay]

IMO, Haddadifar is the best midfielder in this team, and should start. Karimi is not the same Karimi we know of, but ironically in my opinion, he is still Iran's best player, look to me, CQ was using him as Ando's replacement in first half. I thought Iran started well in second half as Haddadifar came in and Karimi went back to his natural position, but as soon as Karimi was subed out and another defensive midfielder (Zare) came in, Iran was totally lost and didn't know what to do. CQ probably started Karimi there in first half as our defensive line has no clue how to start passing, everytime our defensive line got the ball did not know what to do with it. This team needs a lot of help. It showed how valuable Neko, Ando and Khalatbari are to this team.

[K.C.I.N.]

I'm feeling that using Ali Karimi as a forward would be much more beneficial than having him lose balls in the midfield.


Personally I'm still hoping for Carlos to call up some foreigners like Ghoochanejad, Dejagah, Radjabali-Fardi...

I simply dislike most of the IPL players because I don't think that they are professionals (or at least are not acting like pros).

[footballeirani]

We need a world class striker. I guess replacing Daei can be a next to impossible task and rightfully so. How are we going to find a player who will put up the same numbers as he did? Maybe in another 100 years...

but I have to say our forwards are troubling me. Ansarifard does not look too promising and Arash Afshin loses the ball easily.

[iiiiiiiran]

Did we ever had a world class forward? :rolleyes:

And no, no player ever will score +100 goals like Daei did..because football in Asia has improved a lot..In Daeis time TM won 17:1, even 19:0..

Even if a new Batistuta or Ronaldo would be born in Iran he wont be able to score more than 60 or 70 goals...

If Daei had played his 150 (?) matches from lets say 2002 until now he would have scored something like 70 or 80 MAX., which by the way still is a very good record.

[footballeirani]

If you think Daei was not a world class striker then a serious LOL.

Seriously, dude go and look up Daei's goal totals. In that famous 17-0 match he only had two goals. Did you forget his two goals against Chelsea in the Champions League? :rofl: How about his goal in the next match against AC Milan? :eyebrows:

And who do you think Christiano Ronaldo has been scoring against in his national team matches? Khazakhstan, Azerbaijan, Armenia, Luxemborg,...:rolleyes:

[iiiiiiiran]

Is scoring 19 goals in 5 years Bundesliga anything near world class? Just answer me this question. come one man...

[Persianking]

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[Keano]

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/1079/statsda.png

Those stats are not too bad afterall. After watching the ful highlights (Once again thanks to our own PK aziz) I noticed that the scoreline could have easily been 4-0 or even 5-0 to Iran, had it not been for our players' lack of concentration in capitalizing on their golden opportunities. What can a coach do when his players just can't execute the last touch accurately?

In order to help our football prosper and progress, we gotta be fair fans and don't react out of emotions and immaturity!

[TrueBlue]

I was looking at the results of some international friendly games (mostly in Asia) in the past couple of days:

FT Fiji 1 - 2 Vanuatu
FT Thailand 1 - 1 Myanmar
FT Oman 1 - 1 Syria
July 16
Pen. Iraq 1 - 1 Jordan *
FT Kuwait 1 - 0 Saudi Arabia
July 17
FT Iran 1 - 0 Madagascar
FT Qatar 1 - 2 India
FT U.A.E. 6 - 2 Lebanon

Interesting results arent they???!!! :rolleyes:

[St_Mark]

I was looking at the results of some international friendly games (mostly in Asia) in the past couple of days:

FT Fiji 1 - 2 Vanuatu
FT Thailand 1 - 1 Myanmar
FT Oman 1 - 1 Syria
July 16
Pen. Iraq 1 - 1 Jordan *
FT Kuwait 1 - 0 Saudi Arabia
July 17
FT Iran 1 - 0 Madagascar
FT Qatar 1 - 2 India
FT U.A.E. 6 - 2 Lebanon

Interesting results arent they???!!! :rolleyes:

Just disgusted by UAE Diab player

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[K.C.I.N.]

Just disgusted by UAE Diab player


:rofl:

sorry but this was just too damn funny

[payman.T]

If I was on Lebanon's team I would have made sure the guy gets hurt somehow in the last 10 minutes:furious:

[Hashemian9]

Who can blame our poor finishing? We havent had service in the box like that since we had Daei and Hashemian leading the line. We didn't capitalize on the chances, but let's make sure it wasn't just a fluke before we start saying that we suck. We could very easily have won 3-0, or more, but it's only one match, not enough to say whether this is an issue or not.

What I saw that I liked was much better passing and creativity on the ball, seems like our players actually have some ideas out there whereas before it was: LAUNCH IT LONG, wait....GR Rezaei isn't playing so we have no one to run down the long ball....oh well, in that case...LAUNCH IT LONG!

Focus was lacking, but it's better to lack focus in a test match and still come out with the win than to come into Maldives over confident. This should ensure that our players keep their edge.

[persepolisfan]

i would rip the emarati players leg apart. thaN chop him up, and feed it to the rest of the emarati players.

[footballeirani]

Is scoring 19 goals in 5 years Bundesliga anything near world class? Just answer me this question. come one man...

Dude how old are you? Even Franz Beckenbauer called Daei a World Class striker bad to omadi inja chi migi vase khodet?

Seriously stick to the playstation...

[euphory]

we need another hajsafi to replace heydari, he isnt technical and a smart player at all

[Noveen11]

where is Gholami?

[Aryan.Arvandi]

Iran v Madagascar - Friendly
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[Aryan.Arvandi]

TEHRAN, July 18 (MNA) -- Iran football team defeated Madagascar in a friendly match on Sunday.
In the match held at Tehran’s Azadi Stadium, the Iranian team beat Madagascar 1-0.

The Africans took on Iran without their France-based players.

Iran’s defender Jalal Hosseini managed to head the ball past Madagascar keeper Robin Jean-Claude Rakotonirina in the 19th minute.

The local spectators chanted slogans against the president of Iran Football Federation, Ali Kaffashian, during the match.



“We didn’t show a good performance in the first half but our rhythm was better after interval. Our players are still exhausted after Austria training camp,” Iran coach Carlos Queiroz said in a post-match news conference.

“Our players failed to take advantage of their chances against Madagascar. We need to rest for the Maldives match in the World Cup qualifications,” the Portuguese added.

Carlos Queiroz’s men are scheduled to meet the Maldives in the 2014 World Cup qualifiers on July 23 and 28.

Source: http://www.mehrnews.com/en/newsdetail.aspx?NewsID=1361765&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

[Aryan.Arvandi]

New Iran coach Carlos Queiroz has more work ahead of him after Team Melli snuck past African minnows Madagascar 1-0 in his first official game in charge of the side in Tehran on Sunday.

Iran dominated the contest against Madagascar, who are positioned 138th on the Fifa rankings, but Team Melli struggled to take their chances.

Team Melli's 2014 Fifa World Cup qualification campaign begins in less than two weeks with a second round tie coming up against the Maldives.

Defender Jalal Hosseini got the winner against the African side, heading in from an 18th-minute Ehsan Hajsafi throw-in, as Iran utilised their threat from set-pieces.

Minutes later Hadi Aghily hit the crossbar, while moments before the break Pejman Nouri curled an effort narrowly off target.

Early in the second stanza, Karim Ansarifard had an effort hit the underside of the bar and bounce away, while he also spurned a late chance when unmarked.

Source: http://www.goal.com/en/news/14/asia/2011/07/19/2581047/iran-scrape-past-madagascar-in-carlos-queirozs-first-game-in

[hp88]

Guys, im really sorry to say this, but as much as i love our TM, we simply SUCK, i mean we are below ZERO.
Today our team played MADAGASCAR, a team that barely exists! Im sure 90% of the worlds football fans have never heard of this team, and the ranking of 173 or something is just stating the obvious!
yeah sure, our players are tired, we just had a camp, we have a new coach etc etc etc, but im sorry im not gonna buy this kind of bullshit!
In a normal day we should have TRASHED this team 5-0 at least! But today Madagascar seamed like Barcelona! We were totally outplayed in the second half. This was a disaster and i was ashamed of our team today, we showed no game plan, no defensive plan, no offensive plan, we could'nt keep the ball, we couldn't even pass! We had nothing! Zip, ZERO!
Im so angry right now i dont even know what to say!
What do you guys think? Cause with this kind of football i think we will lose both legs against Maldives....I hate to say it but i think im even gonna bet on that on the internet and win some good money!

we have won the game ... we had chances to score more goals, but we didnt .. that is enough!!!