Another "useless" foreign coach

[xoraster]

I opened this thread somewhere else as well, but I thought that it was a very interesting subject.


It seems that another of those coaches that came to Iran and who was largely ridiculed as a hack, useless mercenary and by some creative minds, as a Portughal forosh has reached success upon leaving Iran.

Nelo Vingada won the South korean league with FC seoul, FC Seoul won the league for the first time in 10 years in what is arguably Asias most competitive league. With Vingada, they won the league and had the best record in terms of goals scored, goals conceded, points, wins etc.

(Denizlis double with Besiktas, Bran*** Double with Zagreb and this years Chinese league, Kranjcars good record with Montenegro to name a few other examples of coaches leaving Iran and having success)

Not that Nelo Vingada was a prophet, but obviously more than qualified to coach Perspolis and if given time, could have been successful.

The fact that so called football authorities and media in Iran do not know better is obvious, but I am still amazed that lots of normal fans seem to be falling into the same trap over and over again.

[dvader6]

very true.
our problem is we dont give time to coaches to do their thing (except branko, who got 5 years)
we demand immediate success and if we dont see it immediately, we fire them!
given our sh1tty infrastructures and football set up, it is clear these coaches need more time than usual to get used to us and have an impact

[shahramii]

hamin ham ba ghotbi mishe.. hala bebinid vaghti raftesh japan movafagh mishe ya na.. if ghotbi is sooo bad pas chera japonia khastanesh ? pas chera ali daie ya ghalenoyi ya derakhshan ya ali doosti ya misaghian ya firoz karimi ya estili ro nemikhan ?

[Kaiser Amir]

hamin ham ba ghotbi mishe.. hala bebinid vaghti raftesh japan movafagh mishe ya na..

Baba to bezar aval Ghotbi bere Japon va shahkar bokone unja baad sangesh ro be sine bezan.

Hanuz ke na be bare, na be dare :D

[navidpersia]

So true. Especially firing Ivic and Denizly who could have brought us a lot of success.

[shahramii]

Baba to bezar aval Ghotbi bere Japon va shahkar bokone unja baad sangesh ro be sine bezan.
Hanuz ke na be bare, na be dare :D
aslan bere onja kharab kone.. soale man ine ke chera ghotbi ? chera ghalenoio ro varnadashtan ya morabbie dige ?

[OFFSIDE_1]

Baba to bezar aval Ghotbi bere Japon va shahkar bokone unja baad sangesh ro be sine bezan.
Hanuz ke na be bare, na be dare :D

I think you missed the point.

Ghotbi at least has been given the offer ...... the original comment had to do with all of our "best" coaches still hanging around IPL. These coaches wouldn't be given an assistant coaching job let alone a headcoaching offer .... They've learned to play the system, create hashieh, associate themselves with the right "circles" and any other useless behavior just to extend their career.

[Kaiser Amir]

aslan bere onja kharab kone.. soale man ine ke chera ghotbi ? chera ghalenoio ro varnadashtan ya morabbie dige ?

shahramii Jan,

Age Ghotbi bere Japon be onvane SAR-MORABI, damesh garm.
Vali ye bare dige mig@m: bezar aval bere, bad barash kaf bezanim.

Felan, ta in lahze, dar tarikhe 10 December, tanha khabar-gozrihayi ke khabare raftane Ghotbi ro be Japon dadand, khabar-gozari-haye IRANI budan + AFC (ke un ham khabar-gozari-haye iran ro naghl karde) + Goal.com (baz ham az tarighe shabakeye iranish).

Bande ta aghaye Ghotbi ro ruye nimkate in teame Japoni, be unvane SAR-MORABBI nabinam, sohbati nemikonam.

Vali, faghat hamin ghadr mig@m:

Japoni ha ham adaman va mishe sareshun kolah gozasht...

Chize digeyi nemig@m chon be khode shoma ham ghol dadam ke ta mahe dige sohbati nakonam ke be arameshe aghaye Ghotbi latme bokhore :D

[Soaz...(Stoned)]

I opened this thread somewhere else as well, but I thought that it was a very interesting subject.


It seems that another of those coaches that came to Iran and who was largely ridiculed as a hack, useless mercenary and by some creative minds, as a Portughal forosh has reached success upon leaving Iran.

Nelo Vingada won the South korean league with FC seoul, FC Seoul won the league for the first time in 10 years in what is arguably Asias most competitive league. With Vingada, they won the league and had the best record in terms of goals scored, goals conceded, points, wins etc.

(Denizlis double with Besiktas, Bran*** Double with Zagreb and this years Chinese league, Kranjcars good record with Montenegro to name a few other examples of coaches leaving Iran and having success)

Not that Nelo Vingada was a prophet, but obviously more than qualified to coach Perspolis and if given time, could have been successful.

The fact that so called football authorities and media in Iran do not know better is obvious, but I am still amazed that lots of normal fans seem to be falling into the same trap over and over again.

The same point could be brought across for Ghotbi as well..

The reason for this is because WE THINK coaches are our problem…they rnt.