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The-Red
12-09-2008, 06:26 PM
I have been getting the feeling that he's been working very "anjam vaziefee", meaning the guy doesn't give a rat-sh**t about Perspolis or its fans, and his mostly about 'shoar' va harfay gondeh, which doesn't solve our problems, just sounds good to the ear.
He is enjoying this position as the C.E.O of the biggest club in Iran and Asia and that's all, I doubt he is much interested in the long term future of our club, I could be wrong, what do you all think?
When I compare him with Ansarifar and Kashani, you can tell this guy is way off the chart.
ardi11
12-09-2008, 06:32 PM
i couldn't see the whole game but i heared that the fans in the stadium protested against him or something...(?)
yeah the fans did chant against him.
The problem is, Perspolis is in the grasp of Ali Abadi and the government at the moment and it doesnt really matter who is our director.
In the end, the club is being run by Ali Abadi and Saeedloo and Ahmadinejad's buddy and their lack of brain matter has created a mess of the league champions!
BehzadB
12-09-2008, 10:42 PM
yeah the fans did chant against him.
The problem is, Perspolis is in the grasp of Ali Abadi and the government at the moment and it doesnt really matter who is our director.
In the end, the club is being run by Ali Abadi and Saeedloo and Ahmadinejad's buddy and their lack of brain matter has created a mess of the league champions!
While I fully agree with you, isn't it funny that some people actually believe that Perspolis benefits from being owned by the government.
Payam_S
12-10-2008, 03:15 AM
I must say PP's problem is not Mostafavi.
It's Ali Abadi and Government.
The-Red
12-10-2008, 01:18 PM
can't argue with logic...you are right about Ali Abadi, but remember even kashani was under Ali Abadi, but you could tell he cared, same with Ansarifar, he was a perspolis legend and lived with the team and the fans.
at the end of the day, unfortunately, under this regime, our football will continue to suffer,,,weather is TM and what they are doing to it, or Perspolis and esteghlal, with their turmoil and everyday issues and lack of management.
Payam_S
12-10-2008, 09:14 PM
Mostafavi is not a good manager for sure, he proved it when he was IFF president. He's one of those who " ba panbe sar miporan" .
He couldnt make a proper list for PP, without caring about the rules added players back to back, promises one after each other. Thought can solve everything by getting help by his friends and contacts.
I dont know to call all these careless or dumb manager.
But at the first place it was Ali Abadi who appointed him.
I dont understand why we keep bringing back people who failed plenty of time.
Mostafavi, Mayeli Kohan, Hejazi,....
Looks like these people never leave our football, they keep failing but again there's job for them at our first level.
but remember even kashani was under Ali Abadi, .
red jan,
kashani wasnt under ali abadi.
and that is exactly why ali abadi eventually kicked him out.
last season ali abadi did not provide pp with a penny and kashani had to manage the funds through other sources.
Ali Chicago
12-11-2008, 04:03 PM
Well ba ejazeh if I put my two cents in.
I am not here to defend Aliabadi, but how PP issues is impacted by Aliabadi.It is football, SS was at 17th spot after Saba game. While no one can denies the role of club board, I don't think day to day results of a club so directly related to a secretary of President Aliabadi in this case.
I hate Hezbollah and all, but we Iranian have this habit of connecting a lot of things to politics. Togo players didn't get paid for the WC money their federation got from FIFA and still they managed to play a decent game in 2006. What I am saying, is there are lot of places in this world who have worst situation Stadiums, management and still can play teh god damn game.
Short and sweet, Mostafavi isn't a good manager IMO and neither is Aliabdi, but PP's performance lately is impacted by many other issues, Sudden Ghotbi's departure, the whole inner struggle probably that led to his departure, Afshin Payroovani's first head coaching job (and he had very good results so far 2-1-0). Have you noticed how all of a sudden Hedayati is quiet?
I am positive toward PP's future, despite the meddeling of Aliabadi and company and low performance of Mostafavi and PP board. I think if PP invests on Payroovani and Estili for coaching staff, in the long run it will be a worthwhile investment compared to 1 million dollar plus extra for Ghotbi's contract. Heck if they spend 30% of Ghotbi's alleged contract money on PP youth teams, in the long term it will be much more useful.
It is not like PP is at the 15th spot. Cheer up, so your team tied Saipa, big deal, it is football.
Payam_S
12-11-2008, 04:22 PM
Ali jan you got me wrong here.
I talked about Ali Abadi's issue in general not of PP's recent performance.
I say as long as our football is directing by these guys who doesnt give damn about football we'd never have a professional club.
Ali abadi should've never ordered about keeping Peyrovani.
PP has manager and board who are there to decide about the plans and future.
And about politics and its meddling, well i really think it's a big issue nowadays in our football , you gave an example of Togo and WC, I believe National Team is totally a different story as such things have happened to our own TM many times but no one even said a word.
We're talking about clubs and their connections to government and politics.
IMO Qotbi's departure which is one of the major PP's issue caused by meddling politics and government in PP's plans.
The-Red
12-11-2008, 05:31 PM
boss jan Kashani's 'hokm' was given by Ali Abadi, but Kashani's heart was with Perspolis fans, so was Ansarifard's, that was the difference b/w them and Mostafavi it seems.
amirak
12-11-2008, 06:30 PM
i keep having this weird conspiracy theory that kinda makes alot of sense to me,
Hedayati wants the club, they wont sell
mostafavi and ghotbi thinking of only personal gains
( Ghotbi is the weak guy here, he can be easily played, didnt have to really be in on any details, they cut the check hes happy as hell )
every things set up form day 1, huge ghotbi contract, numerous players,...
ghotbi leaves as planned, the club is in huge financial problems, government has to pay, they dont have it and dont want too, hedayati steps in and says I'll clean this mess up myself if you guys give me a piece of the club.
Aliabadi's crew find out, they turn things around, now its the board that has to undo all that was done ( they have some cards in their hands to make sure the board feels the pressure ), get someone in there to watch closely and here we are today
now estili/kashani have there own thing going here too
put in the huge fan base and expectations there is this year and how its being used to push agendas
makes sense?
Ali Chicago
12-11-2008, 06:32 PM
Thanks Armin Jaan.
perspolees
12-11-2008, 06:48 PM
it is realy simple:
gozashte cheraghe rahe ayandast
thruout the history Persepolis has been given the shorter stick just because it was and is the oppositions team.
have you ever seen a persepolisi atop of esteghlal or taj?
mostafavi is a true blue and from the get go I have voiced this that his selection was indeed to undermine persepolis, by no other person than yet another true blue gov agent aliabadi who had clearly voiced in the papers that " we would do anything and everything to get esteghlal the championship".
look at teh schedule, just to see how many fridays we have and how many esteghlal has...we pour 90k in a midweekday to azadi, they are lucky if they get to 30 on a friday!! but all attempts are to just push for the blue...
witht he same toke:
gozashte cheraghe rahe ayandast:
persepolis was, is and will remain the team of the people and the most beloved team in Asia, perhaps the only team in the world that could sommon 90k on a weekday to its game...
BehzadB
12-11-2008, 09:08 PM
Listen to the Doctor guys, he is absolutely right.
thruout the history Persepolis has been given the shorter stick just because it was and is the oppositions team.
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