Ziganda Out!!! Camacho In!!!!

[Osasunist]

:eek:

I told you this could happen!

[maij]

Is this the same Camcho , the former Real Madrid player ?

[Farhad-7]

damn!

[OsaBlue]

Wtf???????????????????

[Soorakhian]

This is giving me bad feelings. I am worried that this will screw it up for both Masoud and Javad. Let's hope I am wrong though.

[Osasunist]

Is this the same Camcho , the former Real Madrid player ?
Yes, he is. The former spanish national team manager and Real Madrid.
Ziganda is out, that's totally offcial. Camacho seems to be his substitute, but that 's not confirmed. I hope so, Camacho's style fits a lot to Osasuna. Don't fear for Javad, he is our best midfielder and if he works as usual, he has guaranteed to play, Shojaei... i don't know if he and Camacho would cognate.

[Nagore]

You can read about it at http://blogsasuna.com .It´s not in English yet, but you can use Google translator. We´ll traslate ir later.

[shayan20]

Yes, he is. The former spanish national team manager and Real Madrid.
Ziganda is out, that's totally offcial. Camacho seems to be his substitute, but that 's not confirmed. I hope so, Camacho's style fits a lot to Osasuna. Don't fear for Javad, he is our best midfielder and if he works as usual, he has guaranteed to play, Shojaei... i don't know if he and Camacho would cognate.
As u said i don't think neko will have difficulty starting whoever the coach may be. It's masoud that I'm scared of.
But hopefully nothing changes and masoud gets his chance.

[PFS]

well if he dosnt fit in
then his gonna be added to the pile of other iranians that hav been unlucky

[ardi11]

damn i really liked ziganda... i made a fan page for him on facebook :o


anyway tnx for the news

[G0happy]

This is giving me bad feelings. I am worried that this will screw it up for both Masoud and Javad. Let's hope I am wrong though.
I know, im scared as well. Look wat happened to Ando, Karimi, Kaebi wen they all got new coaches in Europe. I hope everything stays alrite for the Iranians!

[Osasunist]

As u said i don't think neko will have difficulty starting whoever the coach may be. It's masoud that I'm scared of.
But hopefully nothing changes and masoud gets his chance.

Masoud will need to be at 100 % and work a lot to play. Camacho is that kind of coach. I take some risk but i say this: "Osasuna is going to be a new team now".

[Rumi]

lol guys....Nekounam is the best player in the squad....Shojaei is top 4...why are u lot so scared?

[G0happy]

lol guys....Nekounam is the best player in the squad....Shojaei is top 4...why are u lot so scared?
Mainly because wen there r new coaches, they like to use different tactics and players. Like I said, Ando was showing good form at Bolton under Big Sam, but the new season with the new coach Megson approached and be basically never and i mean never played. Karimi was also forgotten by Hittzfeld wen he entered the job.

[Rumi]

Mainly because wen there r new coaches, they like to use different tactics and players. Like I said, Ando was showing good form at Bolton under Big Sam, but the new season with the new coach Megson approached and be basically never and i mean never played. Karimi was also forgotten by Hittzfeld wen he entered the job.

yes but Ando was not the best player on the squad....besides Shojaei has toooo much talent

[G0happy]

yes but Ando was not the best player on the squad....besides Shojaei has toooo much talent
Which he hasnt shown too much of. He would have scored by now lol

[Osasunist]

lol guys....Nekounam is the best player in the squad....Shojaei is top 4...why are u lot so scared?
Shojaei top 4? That's very hazardous to say.

[sirvan]

This is bad news for nekounam and shojaei because ziganda put alot of trust in them i don't understand why ziganda didn't get more time as the season has just begun and he did alot of good things for osasuna. Camacho is a experienced coach but usually when a new coach arrives he brings new ideas and players with him. I hope that nekounam and shojaei will have a part in camacho's plans.

[ardi11]

yavar please don't embarass us again in front of our spanish friends.

[Gora Osasuna]

Well not official yet but apparently everybody takes for granted Camacho will be next. I don't think Ziganda had to blame for the team's lack of goal but well, that's the way it is now. I don't think Ziganda is a bad coach and despite of the last results we shouldn't forget that he took us to probably the furthest we will ever reach in Europe (Uefa semifinals two seasons ago), and if now he has to blame for the team's problems he should also be given his credit for what he did back then, shouldn't he?? Anyway, that's the past and all we can do now is look ahead and hope for the best. The main problem so far has been not scoring, although Osasuna has played good games and created several chances to score as you might have already seen this season. It's true that you're lost if you don't score, but it's also true that we have only conceded 4 goals in six games and our two defeats so far have been 1-0 away in Valencia (playing with ten men) and 0-1 at home to Racing in the injury time, and also with ten men during the whole second half.
Well, we'll see, I'm personally grateful to Ziganda for his professional dedication to this club and for proving he is a hard worker, a humble coach, a great person and a gentleman. Good luck to him.

And good luck too to the next coach. I'm sure Neko will stay in the starting 11 and not so sure for Masoud, especially if there is a system change but anyway he will probably play quite often having proved he's quite a skillful and dangerous attacker.

Gora Osasuna !!

[shayan20]

Well not official yet but apparently everybody takes for granted Camacho will be next. I don't think Ziganda had to blame for the team's lack of goal but well, that's the way it is now. I don't think Ziganda is a bad coach and despite of the last results we shouldn't forget that he took us to probably the furthest we will ever reach in Europe (Uefa semifinals two seasons ago), and if now he has to blame for the team's problems he should also be given his credit for what he did back then, shouldn't he?? Anyway, that's the past and all we can do now is look ahead and hope for the best. The main problem so far has been not scoring, although Osasuna has played good games and created several chances to score as you might have already seen this season. It's true that you're lost if you don't score, but it's also true that we have only conceded 4 goals in six games and our two defeats so far have been 1-0 away in Valencia (playing with ten men) and 0-1 at home to Racing in the injury time, and also with ten men during the whole second half.
Well, we'll see, I'm personally grateful to Ziganda for his professional dedication to this club and for proving he is a hard worker, a humble coach, a great person and a gentleman. Good luck to him.
And good luck too to the next coach. I'm sure Neko will stay in the starting 11 and not so sure for Masoud, especially if there is a system change but anyway he will probably play quite often having proved he's quite a skillful and dangerous attacker.
Gora Osasuna !!

Nekounam took Osasuna to Semi-Finals.:eyebrows:

[ardi11]

gora osasuna is right. thanks ziganda & all the best

http://i38.tinypic.com/351uziq.jpg

[Martin-Reza]

I don't think this was a good idea. A typical case of panic and therefore simply changing the weakest link, just in order to do "something".

This might get hard for Shojaei, but only by standing up to such challenges players improve so let's hope the best.

[Gora Osasuna]

True, ;) Neko "took us" to the last 16 round with his last-second header against Girondins.

What I really meant (being a bit sarcastic) is that if the coach has to blame now for the team's problems he should also be recognized for the Uefa "success" two years ago. A team is a team, and if it's everybody's success when you win, the failures should be split as well and not just blame the coach, right ? We know however that this is the way football works, and it's always easier sacking one person than changing a whole squad.

Gora Osasuna !

[djmo]

I've watched almost all Osasuna games ... and Masoud and Javad are definitly fine. Who has played better than Shojaei on Osasuna? He's their only dangerous player ... I want the Osasuna fans to tell me who is more dangerous than Shojaei? They don't have one. How many goals have Osasuna scored this year? 2 ... and Shojaei was involved in them both. He hasn't scored, but he's not a striker. He looks dangerous with the ball.

Anyway, thank you Ziguanda for bringing Javad and Masoud in! He's a good coach and he did marvellous taking them to UEFA semis.

[Rumi]

yavar please don't embarass us again in front of our spanish friends.

chaploos nabash dash

[persian boy]

This could possibly MOTIVATE shojaei to do better and impress. Maybe he will even get more playing time? Who knows!

Im not really worried about Nekonam. He's one of the best in Osasuna. No way there will be anything wrong for him

[Nagore]

I don´t think a new couch will put Neko out of the team, he´s one of the best. I don´t know what could happen to Shojaei.

Right now Ziganda and Izco are talking to the media.

[maij]

Yes, he is. The former spanish national team manager and Real Madrid.
Ziganda is out, that's totally offcial. Camacho seems to be his substitute, but that 's not confirmed. I hope so, Camacho's style fits a lot to Osasuna. Don't fear for Javad, he is our best midfielder and if he works as usual, he has guaranteed to play, Shojaei... i don't know if he and Camacho would cognate.


Thanks.

I seem to recall that Camacho is a real tough character. If he does take over , I hope it is for the benefit of Osasuna. Although Javad seems to be fine in Osasuna line up , I think Shojae has a lot to offer. Perhaps what Osasuna needs is a fine grade striker who can do the finishing job created by Masoud Shojaei.

[Gora Osasuna]

José Antonio Camacho (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jos%C3%A9_Antonio_Camacho) confirmed as new Osasuna manager for the rest of the season.

http://www.osasuna.es/dev/actualidad/ultimasnoticias/acuerdo-con-camacho-para-dirigir-a-osasuna

http://eslatele.com/wp-content/uploads/02-camacho.JPG

Picture as Spain Manager in the 2002 World Cup with Guardiola, current FC Barcelona coach.

[Nokhodi]

José Antonio Camacho (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jos%C3%A9_Antonio_Camacho) confirmed as new Osasuna manager for the rest of the season.

http://www.osasuna.es/dev/actualidad/ultimasnoticias/acuerdo-con-camacho-para-dirigir-a-osasuna

http://eslatele.com/wp-content/uploads/02-camacho.JPG

Picture as Spain Manager in the 2002 World Cup with Guardiola, current FC Barcelona coach.

I hope he remembers his antiperspirant this time. :D

http://www.terra.es/personal8/hiperhidrosis/dibujos/camacho3.jpg

[The-Iron-Ghost]

oh no i smell trouble!!!!

[Karimi_1]

Our boys is gonna do just fine boys! have some faith :D 100% sure that Nekounam will continue playing as he as done otherwise Camacho is the a hole and Masoud? I think Camacho soon will see his talent and use it, and help MAsoud to reach his talent 100% and be a great player for Osasuna and our TM :D let's be positive, something iranians have problem with

[Noveen11]

well shojaei might not be top 4 but he is definitely top 6.As for neko, I don't think it would be a stretch to say he is the best player.

[Ali]

A better coach will only be better for team and players but the change shouldnt have been done so early and they should have atleast waited till after the sporting gijon match.

[The]

well, it was fun while it lasted.

hopefully Ziganda brings Iranian players to the new team he goes to.

[Arashi_Washi]

Put it this way.

Any coach would be stupid not to use the clubs best player in Nekounam.
And the clubs most technically skilled player in Shojaei.

If Camacho any how looks beyond either one of these 2, he's gotta be kidding himself.

[yashar_fasihnia]

worse come to worse, the next teamziganda coaches or some other la liga club might buy masoud shojaei if camacho decides to bench him for the rest of the season :)

[G0happy]

worse come to worse, the next teamziganda coaches or some other la liga club might buy masoud shojaei if camacho decides to bench him for the rest of the season :)
ha, i agree. Ziganda might wanna buy Nekounam and Shojaei back! If so and they wanna agree, it must be a better club in La Liga or wateva league/team he coaches

[Nagore]

Why do you think Camacho is going to take the iranians out of the team? They were playing because they´re excellent players, not because they were Ziganda´s friends.

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[soheil86]

Why do you think Camacho is going to take the iranians out of the team? They were playing because they´re excellent players, not because they were Ziganda´s friends.

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iranians,from officials to fans,always unpredictable!

[G0happy]

Why do you think Camacho is going to take the iranians out of the team? They were playing because they´re excellent players, not because they were Ziganda´s friends.

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I have said this many times in this thread and i will say it again:
Karimi was playing great for bayern at the time and Ando had just fitten in perfectly. yes I agree with everyone, Neko and Masoud r playing Osasuna's best football this season and they will continue playing. We just have to be cautious u never know wat the coach decides. Nekounam will continue playing, but Shojaei might get less minutes.

[PFS]

Why do you think Camacho is going to take the iranians out of the team? They were playing because they´re excellent players, not because they were Ziganda´s friends.

We have updated our Blogsasuna World section so you can follow all this news. Please take a look at http://blogsasuna.com
Thanks for reading.
we hav had a bad experiences when we a team changes its coach


i read the blog post, on paper camacho sounds like a better coach with more experience

[BacheLot]

wow
imo it was a knee jerk decision and unfair to ziganda..!! i think it would have done the club much better if they were to trade, or acquire a physically big, natural target man, rather than making such a drastic, fundemental change..!!
this is definitely not a good change for our boys, especially massud , as now they have to suddenly adapt to a whole new role and tactics, under the new coach and have to prove their worth and quality all over again..!! and if they dont settle in and adapt to camacho's demanded style, they are bound to get tossed aside..!!