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maij
06-07-2008, 05:52 PM
In an editorial on Saturday's issue of Al Ittihad newspaper , the journalist Essam Salem wrote the following:

" I dearly hoped that Metsu's statement about Daei after the Azadi match in which he claimed that Daei was a small coach , would have been delayed until after the match in Al Ain "


Indeed Mr Salem , I think you have a valid point . It seems that the "Small coach kicked the Ass of the "Big coach" right at his door step , and what a painful kick that was !!!!!:D:D:D

Rumi
06-07-2008, 05:59 PM
lol...metso has forgotten TM has owned his arse like 6 times before this victory

darvish_gorgali
06-07-2008, 06:02 PM
sure it was painful...nice job done by Daei and his Crew. What he did was a great accomplishment despite our RIDEMAL IFF. So, I hope metsu learned his lesson today

Siavash
06-07-2008, 06:03 PM
Metso just learned to respect Daei and Daei is going to be a great coach one day.

maij
06-07-2008, 06:42 PM
I think Metsu has learned many lesson, one of which ...great teams such as Team Melli prevail at the end....

AND...


in football , there is no such thing as little coach or big coach....and size does not count....

Martin-Reza
06-07-2008, 06:54 PM
hehe, I would have liked to be in that press conference after the match, I would have had some nice questions for Mr. Metsu :)

Babak agha
06-07-2008, 07:11 PM
lol it's pretty stupid, to first say Daei is unexpericened for saying Iran will win in Azadi, but then he said they same thing about UAE, and he actually lost...
Not that Iran was any better than UAE..

Kaveh
06-07-2008, 07:21 PM
Indeed Mr Salem , I think you have a valid point . It seems that the "Small coach kicked the Ass of the "Big coach" right at his door step , and what a painful kick that was !!!!!:D:D:D
:rofl: :rofl:

persian boy
06-07-2008, 07:45 PM
Metsu jinxed himself

Under Lahaf
06-07-2008, 08:05 PM
was it Daei or once again talented Iranian players tha saved the game?

soniq
06-07-2008, 08:22 PM
i think metsu was thinking about his own penis when he made that comment

sorkh
06-07-2008, 08:24 PM
Daie used his players very well. He balanced the team by using two midfielders in defense playing with two full backs. One of them was a DM, Sadeghi, and the other as an Intermediate, Nekunam, although he wasn't ready as he's just came from an injury and he did not play for almost the whole season. Rezaie could have some pressure on the opponents as well and all of them could help in attack. He used Shojaee and Zandi to serve in attack.

amirak
06-07-2008, 08:59 PM
as the fans in the stadium started chanting in the second half,

metso yadet nare, daei sarvarate

Mr.Click
06-07-2008, 09:04 PM
was it Daei or once again talented Iranian players tha saved the game?
both ;)

Lazio
06-07-2008, 09:11 PM
It's funny how we Iranians were bashing Daei, calling for him to get sacked etc just before today and now nobody's saying anything about how bad of a coach he is.
I don't care if we won today, there was no tactics, no flow to the game and all in all a sh*t game to watch (excuse my french). Just because we got lucky doesn't make Daei the best coach in the world. Now I usually like to give coaches time before criticising them but to be honest, I don't think Daei can do a good job however long you give him. There are always some politics with TM and with someone with an arrogant and edgy personality like Daei, there's always going to be some hashieh shadowing our team. That's why we need a foreign coach. Now unless the technical skills of our boys come to our rescue, then I don't have much hope for the future of TM. Yes we might make it to the WC but it's going to be another dissapointing one if we do indeed make it.
Having said that, I'm still going to support our boys and hope we can get more friendlies for our players to get adpated to each others game and that's the only way our team is going to improve now that we have no tactical superiority over any team.

persian boy
06-07-2008, 09:23 PM
i think metsu was thinking about his own penis when he made that comment
haha good one:D

zzgloo
06-07-2008, 10:15 PM
It was a sweet win, and we are very happy...........
But, just between us,...how TM played was not exactly a nice piece of coaching, was it ?

milad
06-07-2008, 10:50 PM
well daeis player selection was good today. other than that we need some tactics.

Javanmard
06-08-2008, 12:08 AM
It's funny how we Iranians were bashing Daei, calling for him to get sacked etc just before today and now nobody's saying anything about how bad of a coach he is.
I don't care if we won today, there was no tactics, no flow to the game and all in all a sh*t game to watch (excuse my french). Just because we got lucky doesn't make Daei the best coach in the world. Now I usually like to give coaches time before criticising them but to be honest, I don't think Daei can do a good job however long you give him. There are always some politics with TM and with someone with an arrogant and edgy personality like Daei, there's always going to be some hashieh shadowing our team. That's why we need a foreign coach. Now unless the technical skills of our boys come to our rescue, then I don't have much hope for the future of TM. Yes we might make it to the WC but it's going to be another dissapointing one if we do indeed make it.
Having said that, I'm still going to support our boys and hope we can get more friendlies for our players to get adpated to each others game and that's the only way our team is going to improve now that we have no tactical superiority over any team.


Well its true that we were bashing Daei, but then again, its only one victory and in order to truly gauge a couch, you have to see how consistant the team is.

I saw the game yesterday and was not too impressed by TMs performance. They were on the defensive most of the time and the U.A.E. were unlucky not to equalise, especially in the last 10 minutes. If TM wants any hope of winning the Asian cup, they need to be far more consistant and play a far more controlled game.

Lets face it. The U.A.E. is not Japan or Korea. TM really needs to improve its basics and fundementals before becoming a great team. I would hate to see this team up against Australia for instance.

Maybe Daei CAN do the job, but it remains to be seen if he IS doing it.

Hadi
06-08-2008, 12:20 AM
I feel for Metsu.

I bet he is dying to get his hands on Iran TM job and work with our players.

Dadashi
06-08-2008, 12:21 AM
You should calm down and watch the game for a second time. It was a great performance. Players played very smartly and team had a great tactic. I see a bright future in both the team and Ali Daei.


It's funny how we Iranians were bashing Daei, calling for him to get sacked etc just before today and now nobody's saying anything about how bad of a coach he is.
I don't care if we won today, there was no tactics, no flow to the game and all in all a sh*t game to watch (excuse my french). Just because we got lucky doesn't make Daei the best coach in the world. Now I usually like to give coaches time before criticising them but to be honest, I don't think Daei can do a good job however long you give him. There are always some politics with TM and with someone with an arrogant and edgy personality like Daei, there's always going to be some hashieh shadowing our team. That's why we need a foreign coach. Now unless the technical skills of our boys come to our rescue, then I don't have much hope for the future of TM. Yes we might make it to the WC but it's going to be another dissapointing one if we do indeed make it.
Having said that, I'm still going to support our boys and hope we can get more friendlies for our players to get adpated to each others game and that's the only way our team is going to improve now that we have no tactical superiority over any team.

Kaveh
06-08-2008, 05:57 AM
I feel for Metsu.
I bet he is dying to get his hands on Iran TM job and work with our players.
true, Metsu and Troussier both would like to take over TM.

DubFreeek
06-08-2008, 06:15 AM
It's funny how we Iranians were bashing Daei, calling for him to get sacked etc just before today and now nobody's saying anything about how bad of a coach he is.
I don't care if we won today, there was no tactics, no flow to the game and all in all a sh*t game to watch (excuse my french). Just because we got lucky doesn't make Daei the best coach in the world. Now I usually like to give coaches time before criticising them but to be honest, I don't think Daei can do a good job however long you give him. There are always some politics with TM and with someone with an arrogant and edgy personality like Daei, there's always going to be some hashieh shadowing our team. That's why we need a foreign coach. Now unless the technical skills of our boys come to our rescue, then I don't have much hope for the future of TM. Yes we might make it to the WC but it's going to be another dissapointing one if we do indeed make it.
Having said that, I'm still going to support our boys and hope we can get more friendlies for our players to get adpated to each others game and that's the only way our team is going to improve now that we have no tactical superiority over any team.


I second that .. each word you said ..

kaz
06-08-2008, 06:28 AM
Metsu is still the bigger coach. The fact that he got a draw from us is enough. If he had our team I'd wage we'd have won the AC and be 12 points clear by now.

Areh
06-08-2008, 06:39 AM
The most obvious thing is, we're missing a creative player in midfield to initiate the attacks. That's probably our most fundamental problem. We need a player in the caliber of Ali Karimi, otherwise our attacks will be anemic. We have Shojaei, but we didn't see anything too spectacular from him in either of the two games he played. And no, I'm not asking for Mobali, he's basically in the blacklist for as long as Daei is the coach, as far as I'm concerned.

yashar_fasihnia
06-08-2008, 06:50 AM
I feel for Metsu.
I bet he is dying to get his hands on Iran TM job and work with our players.

we should be dying for metsu to work for us as well. looks like neither him nor us will be granted our wishes :(

maij
06-08-2008, 07:43 AM
It's funny how we Iranians were bashing Daei, calling for him to get sacked etc just before today and now nobody's saying anything about how bad of a coach he is.
I don't care if we won today, there was no tactics, no flow to the game and all in all a sh*t game to watch (excuse my french). Just because we got lucky doesn't make Daei the best coach in the world. Now I usually like to give coaches time before criticising them but to be honest, I don't think Daei can do a good job however long you give him. There are always some politics with TM and with someone with an arrogant and edgy personality like Daei, there's always going to be some hashieh shadowing our team. That's why we need a foreign coach. Now unless the technical skills of our boys come to our rescue, then I don't have much hope for the future of TM. Yes we might make it to the WC but it's going to be another dissapointing one if we do indeed make it.
Having said that, I'm still going to support our boys and hope we can get more friendlies for our players to get adpated to each others game and that's the only way our team is going to improve now that we have no tactical superiority over any team.


SO...... in your wisdom , you always give coaches time before criticizing them , but not in Daei's case , this rule of yours does not apply !!!!

Now...this is what I call one hell of unprejudiced, impartial and logical view!!!! Different rules on different people , one rule for Daei one rule for the others and to top that you actually claim it “ to be honest !!”
Unless I have been living in another planet with an alien set of mind prevailing, this statement of yours typifies the flaws in many people’s mentality. Injustice, is one word than can comes to mind to describes your thinking.


The hard work by Daei of the players cannot be simply dismissed by people with little knowledge of how professional football and coaching works. Not that it makes a great difference because at the end of the day , he will carry on working as best as he sees it fit , not according to people who would preach him on what to say , what to wear , what to do , and if this is the arrogance of Daei, then I hail his attitude and mentality.


Hashiye is created by people with vengeance, ignorance, and sense of revenge. Constructive criticism is created by people with knowledge, fairness and good intent. When someone is targeting another person with ill intent, he can easily say anything he wants , hell , no one is perfect. Even if he wins a match or two or a championship , ill-intent people will always find some excuse like the team did not play sexy football or the most popular excuse of them all “He got lucky !! “

I sometime feel that with such a mentality, maybe this lack of its success is exactly what we deserve…….

soheil86
06-08-2008, 08:09 AM
for me,seeing mutsu face after the game was so much sweeter that our win! but daei is not a very good coach and doesnt know how to make a team out of a 4-5-1

Flamengo
06-08-2008, 08:58 AM
we played like crap and our defence is shakey ..when teams like japan and korea ..r aginst us
remember uae doesnt even have a population of 5 million ...
ill give daei time
but i really hope he starts playing with two attackers ..
this solo attack is utter bs ...
we need a good midfielder ....not sadeghi ..the guy is pretty much useless
and andranik ..well to me his a headless chicken now ...all he does is foul loose the ball give the wrong pass ...he runs his a$$ off but pretty much useless

chichinaldo
06-08-2008, 09:11 AM
I think Metsu has learned many lesson, one of which ...great teams such as Team Melli prevail at the end....

AND...


in football , there is no such thing as little coach or big coach....and size does not count....

Daei's not a small coach he's like 7 ft. tall :D

I think that there are coaches of different calibre, but a "big" coach of higher calibre never calls another one "small", especially while knowing that he is bluffing.

Lazio
06-08-2008, 12:20 PM
SO...... in your wisdom , you always give coaches time before criticizing them , but not in Daei's case , this rule of yours does not apply !!!!

Now...this is what I call one hell of unprejudiced, impartial and logical view!!!! Different rules on different people , one rule for Daei one rule for the others and to top that you actually claim it “ to be honest !!”
Unless I have been living in another planet with an alien set of mind prevailing, this statement of yours typifies the flaws in many people’s mentality. Injustice, is one word than can comes to mind to describes your thinking.


The hard work by Daei of the players cannot be simply dismissed by people with little knowledge of how professional football and coaching works. Not that it makes a great difference because at the end of the day , he will carry on working as best as he sees it fit , not according to people who would preach him on what to say , what to wear , what to do , and if this is the arrogance of Daei, then I hail his attitude and mentality.


Hashiye is created by people with vengeance, ignorance, and sense of revenge. Constructive criticism is created by people with knowledge, fairness and good intent. When someone is targeting another person with ill intent, he can easily say anything he wants , hell , no one is perfect. Even if he wins a match or two or a championship , ill-intent people will always find some excuse like the team did not play sexy football or the most popular excuse of them all “He got lucky !! “

I sometime feel that with such a mentality, maybe this lack of its success is exactly what we deserve…….

You're talking about prejudice and yet that last paragraph of yours is filled with it. Do you really think I'm saying these because I don't like Daei as a person? Do you think I gain anything by saying these? What I'm saying is simply judging by his past, Daei is very prone to getting involved with Hashieh. Do you remember the World Cup? Wasn't it because of him arguing with Karimi at such a crucial time that our team almost fell apart? Wasn't it because of him that we're not seeing Mobali in TM any more? Wasn't it Daei that compromised our TM's success to get his 100th goal and what not even though he was invisible in the last 10-20 or so games he played for TM? If he wanted TM to advance he would've said goodbye a long time ago.
I'm sure you've seen all the videos of Daei that are posted in youtube, here are just a couple I found by searching his name, there are many more you can see for yourself but I'm not going to fill this post up with videos:

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You may call it passion but as a head coach, you need to have some level of professionalism. You don't argue with every single person that criticises you. I've never seen Daei take criticism well. He is a very arrogant character who thinks he's above any sort of criticism and I don't see how you can improve with such a mentality. He brings any sort of hashieh upon himself.

I hope you realize I'm not criticising him just because I have some personal hatred for Daei. Like everyone else on this forum I like to see TM do well and play good football, something I haven't seen them do ever since Daei took over. Ok he hasn't had that much time but I don't see anything on the pitch to show any signs of tactics that came from Daei. In the UAE game we were constantly under pressure and our defence would just hoof the ball upfield, only for another attack to get formed by UAE. How many times did that happen? Our goal came early in the game from good individual work by Shojaei which eventually won us the game.
Now tell me, if UAE had scored in the many many chances that they had would you still be saying how well we played? Imagine if that goal was given offside, would TM still have won the game?
You'd imagine after half time, Daei would do something about our team giving the ball away from defence but no, nothing changed at half time. All our moves came from either good passes by Nekounam or Shojaei running down the field with his technique and making some good passes. We had about 4 chances at their end and the rest of the game we defended, with our defend giving the ball straight back to them to start a new attack. Shouldn't Daei be telling them to hold on to the ball? OK sometimes it may be necessary just to clear but other times even when they had lots of time, they would run with the ball until they're closed down, and of course you go for the hoofball again.

I don't wanna ramble on too much, I hope Daei proves me wrong because like you said, me rambling isn't going to change anything. All I'm saying is that judging by what I've seen from Daei, his hot-headed mentality isn't healthy for TM. Looking at our boys I see alot of individual talent that is going to waste without proper infrastructure and guidance.

maij
06-08-2008, 01:13 PM
O..Oh...... It seems he is denying what he said ....

maij
06-08-2008, 01:23 PM
Mr Lazio.. I am not talking about tactics , although I see the outcome of the match quite different than yours and this is open to long discussion that I am not really interested in.

You said that you always give coaches time before criticizing them , but not Daei!......

OK ..... What is this suppose to mean ?

The-Red
06-08-2008, 01:26 PM
he said Daie is inexperienced for the job and he is correct...I don't see a big deal with this, regardless, it was not professional for him to make any comments at this time, specially considering metsu's age and years in the game.

maij
06-08-2008, 01:47 PM
he said Daie is inexperienced for the job and he is correct...I don't see a big deal with this, regardless, it was not professional for him to make any comments at this time, specially considering metsu's age and years in the game.


I believe they have twisted his words , not too surprising from journalist, but then again it does not take a rocket scientist to know that Daei is very much an inexperienced coach.

So far , with a grand total of 3 official matches , 1 win and 2 draws.

Lazio
06-08-2008, 02:03 PM
Mr Lazio.. I am not talking about tactics , although I see the outcome of the match quite different than yours and this is open to long discussion that I am not really interested in.

You said that you always give coaches time before criticizing them , but not Daei!......

OK ..... What is this suppose to mean ?

Majid jan, I did say that and I do like to give coaches time. What I'm saying is Daei has an attitude problem which would probably distract us from improving as a team tactically and I am not hopeful of our team improving with Daei in charge. I'd love to be proved wrong of course, who doesn't want to see a better TM? And if that day comes, I'll swallow my words and fully support Daei whatever he does. Unfortunately until that day I remain skeptical and wish we didn't waste time like every single previous WCQ campaign with an inept coach only to replace him when it's too late.

Nokhodi
06-08-2008, 03:37 PM
I read somewhere that Metsu in the post-match press conference denied the comments and he and Daei were hanging out with each other like best buddies.

arasradio
06-08-2008, 04:27 PM
I read somewhere that Metsu in the post-match press conference denied the comments and he and Daei were hanging out with each other like best buddies.

Exactly lol... I think this was only due to Bad English - Arabic transation..You know that Arabs can not really translate hey??? He said Daei was inexperienced to coach Iran which Daei himself may agree but he never said he was a small coach lol... I guess Arabs interpret things to start a psychological war on Iran that turned against themselves LOL... BAD ENGLISH I SAY

Doctor DOOM
06-08-2008, 06:46 PM
message to arab countries:

dont tickle our "gheyrat" bone. coz the reaction will be a very hard kick up your kazoo

:D

be nice and play hospitable ... and we will behave loosely and indifferently, and that benefits you all.
but if you get us gheyrati, then god save you.