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Mansoor
01-09-2008, 02:25 PM
-Here is Iran's line up for Qatar match:

Starters:

Vaezi
Kaabi-Hossein-Aghili-Vahedi
Rajabzadeh-Jabbari-M.Zareh-Madanchi
Karimi-Khalili

*Karimi and Madanchi may switch.

Reserves: Samereh,Shojaei,E.Sadeghi,A.Mohammadi,Asadi

-It will be decided tonight if we play 4-4-2 or 4-2-3-1. If we switch, this will be the case:

Vaezi
Kaabi-Hosseini-Aghili-Vahedi
Rajabzadeh-Jabbari-Zareh-Karimi-Madanchi
Khalili

-It was too late for Mobali, Bengar, Nosrati, and Hajsafi to join the camp in Qatar. Coaches decided that they would be too tired for the match if they arrive the night before, and there was no ergency as this is just a friendly. So, they all are redirected to join the camp in Kish along with Roudbarin, Heidari, K.Rahmati, and Kazemian.

-Audio interview with the coach available @ www.persianfootball.tv

EKBATAN
01-09-2008, 02:30 PM
vahedi khoshgele mesleh nanasheh :D
************

:cheerblu:






good line up

ARYA
01-09-2008, 02:39 PM
Merci Mansoor jan.

I'm curious how Karimi will do as a striker. I think the last time I saw him in the role was vs. Ireland in Dublin if I'm not mistaking, and he did very well in that game I thought.

All in all, not a bad line-up for a second string team. I also like the fact that we finally have three left footers on the left. And even if Karimi switches with Khalili, he is just as effective with his left as he is with his right.

With this line-up we should have pretty balanced flanks.

Mansoor
01-09-2008, 02:43 PM
Merci ARYA jaan. Audio interview is now available

SF1
01-09-2008, 02:46 PM
Cheers Mansoor,

It still annoys me how our left-back problem is such a mess, I mean Vahedi for lb? You would never put C. Ronaldo at RB:rolleyes:....I still go for S. Zareh to be our leftback.

radin119
01-09-2008, 02:58 PM
this will be Vaezi's first game with TM

Shayan_91
01-09-2008, 03:01 PM
Good lineup... the only thing I would change: I would set Sheys instead of Rajabzadeh... I know, Sheys doesn't play RM, but I think he would be great on this position...

KasraKhan
01-09-2008, 03:03 PM
Here is M.Zareh;s chance to impress with a good TM Squad.

Dubxl152
01-09-2008, 03:05 PM
This is great news, i hope they stick to their plan of playing Karimi upfront as a striker. He is lethal in that position not because of shooting but because his passing/dribbling skills make him an ideal setup man. Its been years since he has played that position now we can see if he excels and preforms well or if i end up putting my foot in my mouth.

Lets go TM. Suddenly it seems like TM has a glimmer of purpose and direction lets see how long it lasts, we have regressed so far since WC06 that anything that resembles some form of plan is an achievement in itself.

MR.ESTESNAII
01-09-2008, 03:05 PM
I like the line up....I hope we get Mahdavikia and Ando and Nekounam back soon...;o(

SF1
01-09-2008, 03:12 PM
This is great news, i hope they stick to their plan of playing Karimi upfront as a striker. He is lethal in that position not because of shooting but because his passing/dribbling skills make him an ideal setup man. Its been years since he has played that position now we can see if he excels and preforms well or if i end up putting my foot in my mouth.
Lets go TM. Suddenly it seems like TM has a glimmer of purpose and direction lets see how long it lasts, we have regressed so far since WC06 that anything that resembles some form of plan is an achievement in itself.

yup, everythings good, but i just want our coach to come :( we still have no idea if its jorge or not!

Hadi
01-09-2008, 03:28 PM
good lineup considering the players at hand.

Amin_
01-09-2008, 03:33 PM
Actually I blieve Karimi as a striker is not such a good idea. Karimi is a playmaker, he needs to get the ball and distribute it. He's got the best overview from all players and a deadly throughpass.

As a striker he won't get to the ball as much as he's used to, and he won't be able to do the things he's used to (dribbling, passing in the depth, playmaking in general). This will probably make him leave his post and move back to the midfield to demand the ball, which will mess up with Jabbari and will leave a hole upfront.

Let's see how it turns out tho.

Obteene
01-09-2008, 03:38 PM
ooh karimi as a striker!! hopefully hell pull some of those moves weve been looking for and finally net one.

Ali Chicago
01-09-2008, 03:45 PM
Disappointed to see Vahedi playing left back. I wish we invest on M. Asadi, shakoori, AlNemeh or someone else. But then again, we are not close to the situation and don't know all of the facts.

arsham
01-09-2008, 03:53 PM
It's a good lineup, really impressed!
hope they'll get a good result!

teammelli34
01-09-2008, 04:00 PM
vahedi? vahedi nikbakht? if not someone tell me who he is...

Ting_a_ling
01-09-2008, 04:08 PM
not bad. but i dont get why rajabzadeh is there. he's awful.

obviosuly this game is all about jabbari proving that he's back to his best, and more importantly - Zare's chance to prove his worth

SF1
01-09-2008, 04:14 PM
vahedi? vahedi nikbakht? if not someone tell me who he is...

the very one, nikki khoshgele

Doctor DOOM
01-09-2008, 04:19 PM
thanks mansoor jan.

what I wanted to see was shojaei starting the game and finishing it. I really wanted to see him find his place and settle into the team. but each time , somehow, things dont go his way!


out of this game, I dont expect much teamwork or strategy. But if they continue to play like the first half against hansa, which is quick one-touch game with pace all over, I'll be very happy.

I also would like to see a couple of ppl's form & performances:
1- Mohamadi in the goal.
2- karimi
3- khalai at TM.
4- Samereh back at TM
5- I just cant imagine niki as LB! so it'll be useful to see how he does there.
otherwise, a more reliable LB is Asadi who have impressed well.


another exciting prospect is the pairing of zareh-jabbari !
sounds tremendously exciting. if they click, given their talents, I dare say they can EASILY surpass ando-neku pair.
talent-wise, they are superior to ando-neku pair. but how they "apply" these talents and how they use their brains is what distinguishes them.
.... if the click.


on formation:
having rajabzadeh and madanchi, I am led to think it'll be 4-2-3-1, with khalili up front.
especially if karimi is deployed in the center behind the striker, who can feed not only khalili, the striker in front of him, but also the runners from flanks; madanchi and rajabzadeh.
if this is the final arrangement, it'll be quite interesting .


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as for those who didnt make it, I think they'd get to play against Mali.
which is a better test for us.

kasai
01-09-2008, 04:21 PM
Nikbakht is not a good choice as left back. He is not defensive minded at all. Against weak competition like Qatar, it will not matter, but playing Nikki in that role is not preparing TM for playing against top level competition.

Karimi upfront is a good idea at this stage of his career. He did quite well in AC2004 when he played in front of Daei in many games. He does not have the speed to play in the midfield against top level competition.

Ali Chicago
01-09-2008, 04:23 PM
Nikbakht is not a good choice as left back. He is not defensive minded at all. Against weak competition like Qatar, it will not matter, but playing Nikki in that role is not preparing TM for playing against top level competition.

Karimi upfront is a good idea at this stage of his career. He did quite well in AC2004 when he played in front of Daei in many games. He does not have the speed to play in the midfield against top level competition.

I think he doesn't have the stamina to play in the midfield and have both offensive and defensive duties. So I think upfront he will be good.

Ting_a_ling
01-09-2008, 04:29 PM
I just cant imagine niki as LB! so it'll be useful to see how he does there.
otherwise, a more reliable LB is Asadi who have impressed well.
i remember when Ghalnoi first came in he used nikki at LB a few times. He was ok. usually just wanted to get forward which is good. not sure about his tackling tho. he's much fitter now. if you remember he was just back from injury back then, then he got another injury! i think its good. i would however prefer to see someone like nouri who has more experience at LB and who i think it better in that position

Siavash
01-09-2008, 04:37 PM
Vahedi left back, What a stupied move. He was playing forward the whole time for PP now left back for TM. This is an insult to all of our defensive players. Shame on you Mr. Ebrahimzadeh. When people like you and GN are going to learn, not to arrange players out of their natural position. GN did that in AFC games and we all saw what happend. Mr. Ebrahimzadeh, Would you please stop following GN's foot step.

Doctor DOOM
01-09-2008, 04:41 PM
Vahedi left back, What a stupied move. He was playing forward the whole time for PP now left back for TM. This is an insult to all of our defensive players. Shame on you Mr. Ebrahimi. When people like you and GN are going to learn, not to arrange players out of their natural position. GN did that in AFC games and we all saw what happend. Mr. Ebrahimian, Would you please stop following GN's foot step.

poor ebrahimi. even when he doesnt have anything to do with TM, and is sitting at home, minding his own business, he gets attacked ! LOL.

same with poor ebrahimian, who is just a player and to add insult to injury, he not only wasnt invited to TM's 50 list, he gets attacked also !!

some guys cant get a break !!

siavash jan, you may re-direct the muzzle of your machine gun towards ebrahimzadeh though.
But , seriously, he isnt doing all that bad.
once the coach comes in, ....

Siavash
01-09-2008, 04:56 PM
poor ebrahimi. even when he doesnt have anything to do with TM, and is sitting at home, minding his own business, he gets attacked ! LOL.
same with poor ebrahimian, who is just a player and to add insult to injury, he not only wasnt invited to TM's 50 list, he gets attacked also !!
some guys cant get a break !!
siavash jan, you may re-direct the muzzle of your machine gun towards ebrahimzadeh though.
But , seriously, he isnt doing all that bad.
once the coach comes in, ....

Sorry, I am talking about The TM coach Ibrahimian or ibrahimzadeh.

Dubxl152
01-09-2008, 04:56 PM
yup, everythings good, but i just want our coach to come :( we still have no idea if its jorge or not!

Well kno soon enough, im under the impression that kafashian is a supporter of Jorge (based on what ive read) i mean anything can happen but after the AC07 mess i doubt that the IFF would be foolish enough to install a coach with no CV just cause hes iranian. Theyll invite Jorge and if he fails theyll say oh hes not Iranian so he all about the money.

chichinaldo
01-09-2008, 05:07 PM
thanx mansour ;)

Why the hell are we still on this Vahdi-Nikbakht as a Left back issue? The problem with our main leftbacks is that they're not comfortable defending on the line. There's no problem with them making the runs and joining the forwards. What has Nikbakht done that tells the TM coaches that he's a good LEFT BACK?!!!

baba let the poor guy play in his position, he is a Left winger and a damn good one too. Why are we making our team worst? Maybe Madanchi can move up and take Karimi's place next to Khalili on his right.

Yeah I said it, bench an unfit Karimi.

Dubxl152
01-09-2008, 05:08 PM
Actually I blieve Karimi as a striker is not such a good idea. Karimi is a playmaker, he needs to get the ball and distribute it. He's got the best overview from all players and a deadly throughpass.
As a striker he won't get to the ball as much as he's used to, and he won't be able to do the things he's used to (dribbling, passing in the depth, playmaking in general). This will probably make him leave his post and move back to the midfield to demand the ball, which will mess up with Jabbari and will leave a hole upfront.
Let's see how it turns out tho.

Logically Karimi would be best used in his natural position which is ACM. But as i recall he played very well up front as a striker in Dublin and in AC04. Also he is a lethal dribbler inside the box, he draws double teams leaving other strikers 1v1 and he draws fouls which are extremely important around the box. He doesnt have to worry about defensive duties which is the primary reason for his dismal preformance @ the AC07, he simply lacks the stamina to defend and join the attack. another viable option would be to play bran*** 4-1-2-1-2 and leave him @ ACM.

ird28
01-09-2008, 05:37 PM
I think niki as LB is a really good solution

when nouri and zandi can make good leftbacks, then niki can certainly too. I even think that he can be better than both of them.
when he played left-mid under GN he never failed to fulfill his defensive duties, and played tactically very clever, not being too offensive.
he indeed has defensive skills, and is good in the offense. what do you want more?

and he has never played there in TM under GN, only the last 20 mins vs belarus.

btw its a very natural position for him, as he has always been a left midfielder. you rather have to criticize pp for playing him out of position always. he is not a striker and he never looked natural on that position.

and I wanted to add that 433 makes much more sense than 442 or 451. I doubt they will play rajabzadeh as winger and karimi upfront.

--jabari--------zareh-------karimi

--rajabzadeh----khalili----madanchi

milad
01-09-2008, 05:59 PM
it would be wise to play karimi in his natural position. he is playing amazing in his natural lone attacking midfield role in qatar.

ehsanjd
01-09-2008, 06:11 PM
it would be wise to play karimi in his natural position. he is playing amazing in his natural lone attacking midfield role in qatar.

They have Sebastian to finish, TM currently has NO finishers. Besides, Karimi used to play as a forward in the Emirates and was simply amazing there. He can definitely score when up there.

Ting_a_ling
01-09-2008, 06:18 PM
I just want to see karimi play with the freedom and creativity he hasnt shown since '04.

Sam van Dam
01-09-2008, 07:06 PM
its SHOW time

persian boy
01-09-2008, 07:26 PM
i prefer this using those players named:

-------------Vaezi-------------------
--Kaebi--Hosseini--Aghili---Asadi(nikki)-
--------------Zare--------------------
---Shojaei----Jabbari----Madanchi------
---------Karimi----Khalili-------------

Salar
01-09-2008, 07:43 PM
good line up, cant wait to see Samereh back in TM colours after so long. Shame about Nikbakht as left back though

Martin-Reza
01-09-2008, 07:59 PM
thanks a lot, very offensive lineup with only 3 real defensive players, too offensive to be good in my opinion

Martin-Reza
01-09-2008, 08:06 PM
btw, just a question, why aren't Shakouri and S.Rezaei on the bench? They are with the team and having no defender on the bench doesn't seem a wise idea...

DubFreeek
01-09-2008, 09:33 PM
hmmm, good lne up, but I have a question, why Pjman Nouri is not in?? Didnt he go to Qatar with the team??

my ideal lineup will be:
4-4-2
-------------Vaezi-------------------
--Kaebi--Hosseini--Aghili---P Nouri-
--------------Zare--------------------
---Shojaei----Karimi----Niki------
---------Samereh----Khalili-------------


4-2-3-1
-------------Vaezi-------------------
----------Hosseini--Aghili-------------
--Kaebi-----------------------P Nouri--
--------------Zare----------------------
------------------------Niki------------
---Shojaei-----------------------------
--------------Karimi--------Madanchi--
------------------Samereh-------------

RahmanRezai
01-09-2008, 09:48 PM
I dont know if thats the ideal formation and therefore position for Zare. I really hope he impresses, but the chances would be higher with a position he is more used to.

IRN Rugby Playa
01-09-2008, 09:51 PM
4-2-3-1
-------------Vaezi-------------------
----------Hosseini--Aghili-------------
--Kaebi-----------------------P Nouri--
--------------Zare----------------------
------------------------Niki------------
---Shojaei-----------------------------
--------------Karimi--------Madanchi--
------------------Samereh-------------


haha this looks like ur barcelona formation in winning eleven

Mansoor
01-09-2008, 10:16 PM
btw, just a question, why aren't Shakouri and S.Rezaei on the bench? They are with the team and having no defender on the bench doesn't seem a wise idea...

That is what Ebrahimzadeh said but he might have omitted the other 3 players by mistake. The left out ones were Badamaki, Shakouri, and Rezaei. We'll see if he would make any other change but I think he can only use 5 subs so 3 have to be left out any way.

As for not testing defenders, I guess he is more concerned about getting the two central defenders enough playing time to get used to each other and synchronize than testing other defenders.

vatanparast
01-09-2008, 10:28 PM
Cheers Mansoor,
It still annoys me how our left-back problem is such a mess, I mean Vahedi for lb? You would never put C. Ronaldo at RB:rolleyes:....I still go for S. Zareh to be our leftback.
zayeh sux. has always sucked, sux now and will always suck. he is terrible. I'm glad he is left out.

DubFreeek
01-09-2008, 10:35 PM
haha this looks like ur barcelona formation in winning eleven


u r mistaken, I play 4-3-3 with Barca my dear .. go and sleep :cool:

soheil86
01-10-2008, 01:28 AM
what is rajabzadeh doing there?? he is 30-31 by worldcup he will be 33-34 and he isnt daei so he isnt gonna last,put shojaei instead of him

Martin-Reza
01-10-2008, 05:12 AM
That is what Ebrahimzadeh said but he might have omitted the other 3 players by mistake. The left out ones were Badamaki, Shakouri, and Rezaei. We'll see if he would make any other change but I think he can only use 5 subs so 3 have to be left out any way.
As for not testing defenders, I guess he is more concerned about getting the two central defenders enough playing time to get used to each other and synchronize than testing other defenders.

But it's not about testing, of course a football match always brings the chance of injury or suspension and so if Aghili hurts himself he plans to continue with one defender??

Mansoor
01-10-2008, 08:28 AM
But it's not about testing, of course a football match always brings the chance of injury or suspension and so if Aghili hurts himself he plans to continue with one defender??

Oh, in that case I am sure he will use other defenders such as Shakouri or even S.Rezaei. He basically mentioned his plans for testing players but they will all be on the bench I suppose. This morning, he mentioned Shakouri and Badamaki, and not Asadi.

Doctor DOOM
01-10-2008, 08:28 AM
LOL.
I just laugh at some of the comments here, making karimi into a superhuman savior who can do everything and save us by scoring goals, making passes, covering this and that !

aghayoon, he is but one player.... and sorry to burst your bubble, ... a player PAST his prime.
some say qatar has X , so we have karimi. then next guy says we lack Y, so here's karimi. next, we want this, so karimi does it. after that, .... !!!!!!! you've made this ILLUSION for yourselves that if we have karimi, then we wouldnt have any problems !!

really ! sometimes, it just becomes too overwhelmingly sad in a comical way.

lets see if karimi will save your team by doing 15 tasks that a superman can do.

Martin-Reza
01-10-2008, 08:50 AM
Oh, in that case I am sure he will use other defenders such as Shakouri or even S.Rezaei. He basically mentioned his plans for testing players but they will all be on the bench I suppose. This morning, he mentioned Shakouri and Badamaki, and not Asadi.

ok, thanks, I hope so

Doctor DOOM
01-10-2008, 11:16 AM
damn!
I really wanted to see how the team performs. I couldnt care less about the result or scoreline, but to see what the addition of the new players brought for the team and who was in what kind of form.

I wonder knowing qatari's tendency to do such things, isnt it possible for the TM staff to carry a cam corder, if at all for their own review purposes. They can certainly have someone sit in the stands and record the damn game for the staff.
especially since the new coach shd have as much info on the players ( in match conditions ) as possible. and such games are imminently useful for him to know about our lads.
why dont we think a little properly and step out of the box once in a while?

MR.ESTESNAII
01-10-2008, 11:23 AM
so what was the score for the game? Anyone know?

sahandkarimi
01-10-2008, 11:41 AM
so what was the score for the game? Anyone know?
apparently 0-0