A Good lesson for TM and Branko

[Iranyar Rezatank]

The humilation for Serbia was a Good lesson for TM and Branko.
It is a fact that Yugoslav style football, of which Branko is a proponent, does not work. Conservative Slowing a game, deffensive-counter football does not work. Playing with one forward doesn not work. Playing slow in front of the opponent's goal doesnt work.
Moreover when player play without Gheyrat like Serbians did today, makes the humilation only harsher.

I hope our players have learned a lesson now and do not play like Serbians today without Gheyrat and motivation. They should fight untill the last second!

[King Irooni]

Very important point Iranyar jan.

I expect even if our boys are down 3-0 to fight till the last second and give their all.

[Adesor Vafaseya]

The humilation for Serbia was a Good lesson for TM and Branko.
It is a fact that Yugoslav style football, of which Branko is a proponent, does not work. Conservative Slowing a game, deffensive-counter football does not work. Playing with one forward doesn not work. Playing slow in front of the opponent's goal doesnt work.
Moreover when player play without Gheyrat like Serbians did today, makes the humilation only harsher.
I hope our players have learned a lesson now and do not play like Serbians today without Gheyrat and motivation. They should fight untill the last second!

well, not quiet right here!
Craotian football is very effective - so is Czech Football.

I agree that the best defence is to attach. and I also agree and always said Iranian football is strong when it is offensive and pushing.
But let us not forget we played well against mexico in the first half because we had two excellent DM's Nekoonam and Teymourian....

my point is system versus Portugal doesn't matter - what matters is GHEYRAT and JAVOONNMARD game with players committed to run and fight for iran

(of course without ALI DAEI :angry: )

[delbar]

guys;

What does 6-0 demoltion has anything to do with Iran?
Serbia is a strong team that had a bad game.
eastern European team that do not have the technical ability can not fall behind 1-0 right from the get go. They don't have the ability to come back from behind.
c. Republic is far better than Serbia. Ira'ns tachnical ability is far better than Serbia. We are even better than Croatia in terms of Technical ability.

technique can not serve you well if you are not fit 100% and can not deliver your coach's game plan for 90 minutes. Serbia did not.
Iran did not deliver coaches plan fin the secind half. This is why we pt pressure on our selves.
Hopefully the next game will be diffrerent.

[Martin-Reza]

It's getting a bit ridiculous. Out of every fart some conclusion about Iran is drawn.

[EKBATAN]

LOL

i think he's making a valid point, branko's style of coaching DOES NOT FIT IRAN'S NATIONAL TEAM!

[Iranyar Rezatank]

well, not quiet right here!
Craotian football is very effective - so is Czech Football.
I agree that the best defence is to attach. and I also agree and always said Iranian football is strong when it is offensive and pushing.
But let us not forget we played well against mexico in the first half because we had two excellent DM's Nekoonam and Teymourian....
my point is system versus Portugal doesn't matter - what matters is GHEYRAT and JAVOONNMARD game with players committed to run and fight for iran
(of course without ALI DAEI :angry: )

Croatia plays a typical Yugoslav football. It is based on counters. And not attractive.

Czech plays good football. Very strong. It is a combination of all of the good in England, Spain, Italy and Germany together. (Ps; Czach has nver been a yugoslave republic!).

yugoslaves are Serbia, Bosnia, Croatia, Slovenia and Macedonia

[police in helicopter]

It doesn't have anything to do with the style. Havn't you read about the civil war inside the team? That's the reason of their play without Gheyrat.

[arsham]

It doesn't have anything to do with the style. Havn't you read about the civil war inside the team? That's the reason of their play without Gheyrat.

you mean internal fight!:D

[Big one]

TM does not have the strenght to run on the pitch for 90 minutes, none of them period.(45 minutes maybe).:eyebrows: :eyebrows: :eyebrows:

[Iranyar Rezatank]

It doesn't have anything to do with the style. Havn't you read about the civil war inside the team? That's the reason of their play without Gheyrat.

fight in Iran's team or Serbia's?

[police in helicopter]

fight in Iran's team or Serbia's?

Serbia. Just some exemples that I read in an article :

Ever since the coach decided to include his son in the squad, the players protested against him and his decisions.

Koroman said in the German press this week that the coach did not know what he was doing.

Kezman sent a not very polite sign, to say the least, at his coach in front of the TV's after his substitution against Holland.

Savo Milosevic, the captain, told the press 24 hours after the game that he was pissed off because of the coach.

[Iranyar Rezatank]

Serbia. Just some exemples that I read in an article :
Ever since the coach decided to include his son in the squad, the players protested against him and his decisions.
Koroman said in the German press this week that the coach did not know what he was doing.
Kezman sent a not very polite sign, to say the least, at his coach in front of the TV's after his substitution against Holland.
Savo Milosevic, the captain, told the press 24 hours after the game that he was pissed off because of the coach.


hmmm but there was no Petkovic in Serbia's team :wowie:

[police in helicopter]

hmmm but there was no Petkovic in Serbia's team :wowie:

Here is the article...sorry if it's in french, but it says he replaced an injured player with his son Dusan.


MONDIAL 2006
Serbie : les joueurs contestent le sélectionneur

Agence France-Presse

Billerbeck


L'équipe de Serbie-Monténégro est en proie au doute après sa défaite contre les Pays-Bas (0-1), dimanche lors de sa première rencontre du Mondial 2006 de football, et les choix du sélectionneur Ilija Petkovic sont contestés par les joueurs.

Sous le feu des questions et critiques des journalistes, Petkovic a abrégé lundi sa conférence de presse au camp de base de l'équipe à Billerbeck (ouest) : il a juste pris le temps d'indiquer que «pour le match contre l'Argentine (le 16 juin à Gelsen***chen), la composition de l'attaque sera différente».

Petkovic est très contesté depuis qu'il a fait appel à son fils Dusan pour remplacer Mirko Vucinic, blessé juste avant le départ pour l'Allemagne : devant l'émoi provoqué par cette convocation, Petkovic junior a renoncé à venir en Allemagne et l'équipe qui ne compte que 22 joueurs, semble au bord de la mutinerie.

Les joueurs ne cachent pas leur mécontentement et sont très diserts dans la presse allemande, mardi. «Si nous débutons la rencontre avec la même équipe que celle de dimanche, nous n'avons aucune chance contre l'Argentine», a déclaré le milieu de terrain Ognjen Koroman.

Koroman, qui est entré à la 43e minute de jeu contre les Pays-Bas, n'est pas le plus insatisfait des joueurs serbo-monténégrins.

Le capitaine et buteur de la sélection Savo Milosevic, remplacé à la 46e minute, s'est dit perturbé lorsqu'il a vu que Nikola Zigis s'échauffait dès la première période. «Je n'ai aucun commentaire à faire, demandez à Petkovic», a lâché Milosevic, toujours très en colère, plus de 24 heures après le match.

De son côté, Mateja Kezman, qui a laissé sa place à Danijel Ljuboja, a fait part au sélectionneur d'un geste de la main de son courroux en se dirigeant vers le banc.

«Nous sommes très déçus», a admis Malden Krstajic, mais «nous ne sommes pas encore morts, la qualification est encore possible» : le défenseur de Schalke 04 a par ailleurs balayé les rumeurs selon lesquelles il se serait battu avec le meneur de jeu Dejan Stojkovic.

[Iranyar Rezatank]

Here is the article...sorry if it's in french, but it says he replaced an injured player with his son Dusan.
MONDIAL 2006
Serbie : les joueurs contestent le sélectionneur
Agence France-Presse
Billerbeck
L'équipe de Serbie-Monténégro est en proie au doute après sa défaite contre les Pays-Bas (0-1), dimanche lors de sa première rencontre du Mondial 2006 de football, et les choix du sélectionneur Ilija Petkovic sont contestés par les joueurs.
Sous le feu des questions et critiques des journalistes, Petkovic a abrégé lundi sa conférence de presse au camp de base de l'équipe à Billerbeck (ouest) : il a juste pris le temps d'indiquer que «pour le match contre l'Argentine (le 16 juin à Gelsen***chen), la composition de l'attaque sera différente».
Petkovic est très contesté depuis qu'il a fait appel à son fils Dusan pour remplacer Mirko Vucinic, blessé juste avant le départ pour l'Allemagne : devant l'émoi provoqué par cette convocation, Petkovic junior a renoncé à venir en Allemagne et l'équipe qui ne compte que 22 joueurs, semble au bord de la mutinerie.
Les joueurs ne cachent pas leur mécontentement et sont très diserts dans la presse allemande, mardi. «Si nous débutons la rencontre avec la même équipe que celle de dimanche, nous n'avons aucune chance contre l'Argentine», a déclaré le milieu de terrain Ognjen Koroman.
Koroman, qui est entré à la 43e minute de jeu contre les Pays-Bas, n'est pas le plus insatisfait des joueurs serbo-monténégrins.
Le capitaine et buteur de la sélection Savo Milosevic, remplacé à la 46e minute, s'est dit perturbé lorsqu'il a vu que Nikola Zigis s'échauffait dès la première période. «Je n'ai aucun commentaire à faire, demandez à Petkovic», a lâché Milosevic, toujours très en colère, plus de 24 heures après le match.
De son côté, Mateja Kezman, qui a laissé sa place à Danijel Ljuboja, a fait part au sélectionneur d'un geste de la main de son courroux en se dirigeant vers le banc.
«Nous sommes très déçus», a admis Malden Krstajic, mais «nous ne sommes pas encore morts, la qualification est encore possible» : le défenseur de Schalke 04 a par ailleurs balayé les rumeurs selon lesquelles il se serait battu avec le meneur de jeu Dejan Stojkovic.

I C. But I do not know if the players did a good thing. They are not there for the coach but for their country

[Martin-Reza]

Btw, Petkovic after the match said his mistake was to listen to the press and letting himself being influenced by the media.

The Serbian press had demanded a more offensive game after the 0-1 against Holland.

[Ali Chicago]

Martin what are you trying to imply with Serbian press asked for a more offensive game? Are you implying after the 6-0 loss of Serbia Iran has to play a chicken*** game and another copy of second half game against Mexico?

Come on man loss is a loss. Serbian example probably is a fluke and exception. I bet you anyamount of money if Argentina plays 30 times against Serbia they wont' repeat the same results.

Branko was the one himself who raised the expectation by talking about getting to 1/8 and all that stuff. It is good to accept one has made a mistake. Do I ever remember Branko tells Iranian press or people he ever made a mistake. Could you cite one example?

[Iranyar Rezatank]

Btw, Petkovic after the match said his mistake was to listen to the press and letting himself being influenced by the media.
The Serbian press had demanded a more offensive game after the 0-1 against Holland.

Serbia played less aatacking. In their first game they had Kezman and Zigic while in this one zigic was lacking. They came with a more deffensive line up and thats why they lost this big