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DJPedram
04-09-2006, 11:10 PM
Whats wrong with our people?
I am not a big fan of Ali Daei either, but I dont make 200 different threads about it. Just accept it that he is in the team, whether you like it or not!

Now people are after Mirzapour - We all know that not many goalkeeper even come close to Mirzapour.

He is physically more fit then all other goalies in Iran. Just let it go and support team!

Makaveli
04-09-2006, 11:12 PM
yeah, lets just all put blind support behind the things we love

:thumbup:

GooshKoob
04-10-2006, 01:24 AM
Whats wrong with our people?
I am not a big fan of Ali Daei either, but I dont make 200 different threads about it. Just accept it that he is in the team, whether you like it or not!
Now people are after Mirzapour - We all know that not many goalkeeper even come close to Mirzapour.
He is physically more fit then all other goalies in Iran. Just let it go and support team!

Great post DJ jan.

That's always been a question for me, but I didn't get a good answer for it yet.

What bothers me is that some people do not understand that we only have 2 months left for the WC preparations, and "changes" at this moment is just a crazy thing to do.

Some people want Jalali or other coaches over Branko.
Some want Enayati over Daei.
and NOW it's MIRZAPOUR's turn.

unfortunately I'm getting tired of these kinds of people. They claim they love team, but they never prove it. The only thing they do is bashing them, and when they are asked why they do it, they say: well! we're not bashing them, we're just trying to help our team, because we love them. And if that's the way they love team, so I'm sorry for them, really sorry.

186forever
04-10-2006, 01:30 AM
only if the people are just looking for things to bash on....but if it is logical critisizm, then that is why we are all here, to discuss and share our thoughts....
are u saying that mirzapour's latest daste gols are not something to discuss?
after all, he wil be protecting our net in WC in 2 months or so

ird28
04-10-2006, 03:09 AM
yeah, lets just all put blind support behind the things we love

:thumbup:

still better than blind criticism without thinking

Makaveli
04-10-2006, 03:10 AM
still better than blind criticism without thinking
no shit genius

karimi_jaadogar
04-10-2006, 05:21 AM
still better than blind criticism without thinking

correct

maij
04-10-2006, 07:36 AM
Whats wrong with our people?
I am not a big fan of Ali Daei either, but I dont make 200 different threads about it. Just accept it that he is in the team, whether you like it or not!

Now people are after Mirzapour - We all know that not many goalkeeper even come close to Mirzapour.

He is physically more fit then all other goalies in Iran. Just let it go and support team!

You must be one gallant man to say what you have just said , DJPedram Jan.

If we the staff mention such a thing , every Tom , Dick and Harry will jump on us accusing us of dictatorship , blatant disregard for freedom of expression and the rest of the crap !

The truth of the matter is that we have far too many emotional people around and even more people who THINK they know better than anyone else in football. The last pecentage of people , the sane and the reasonable type , is on the decline ...that is why you have these attack waves on players , coaches and the rest of people related to football in Iran , everytime one of them under-perform or after a bad result.

Hajagha
04-10-2006, 09:25 AM
With all due respect, I disagree with you.

The number of the threads and number of the replies to those threads show how members who are part of the bigger family of Iranian fans are worry about some obvious faults by coaching staffs. Besides, if we don't talk about TM members, I doubt there will be so many other attractive options to talk.

Particularly, Mirzapour and Daei are the biggest subject of TM for about 3 years, it's not like people just jumped on it with no reason. They see their performance, and argue about how come there is no action about these blunders.

I think we should let the nature of the forum decides what topic should be discussed. Of course, we don't want flooding and multiple threads about one topic in front page which I see moderators doing a fine job by closing the extra ones and refer to the open topics.

Cheers

Ala
04-10-2006, 10:01 AM
...that is why you have these attack waves on players , coaches and the rest of people related to football in Iran , everytime one of them under-perform or after a bad result.


just to show how wrong we can be, last year this time we had threads after threads that karimi is not good anymore and there were calls for branko to set him aside form team melli! this, only weeks before bayern paid 6 million dollars for him! and when the news came out, most people here did not believe it and some even were angry at karimi for even accepting bayern offer because they did not think karimi is bayern material and he will miserably fail!

unfortunately, we are people that cannot judge ourselves well.

maij
04-10-2006, 12:01 PM
Hajagha...It is not true , or less say not accurate fact that only Daei and Mirzapour have been under attack for 3 years.

Nosrati, kazemian , Enayati , Karimi , Hashemian and the list goes on have all been subject of " Na mehrabooni" by the fans.

Whether it is justified or not ,is another matter, but the original poster's message was very clear ( at least in my point of view).

Now...... I don't need another "necessaity of criticism for the good of Iran" lecture or a course in the "Spirit of Democracy classes" either. My message is very simple, Players , coaches and people err , we should not slaughter them for their errors in one match , while clapping madly for their heroics next day.

BehzadB
04-10-2006, 12:17 PM
... we should not slaughter them for their errors in one match , while clapping madly for their heroics next day.

Basically telling people to be LESS emotional. Although I agree with that notion I just don't know how practical it is. Peole are emotional, some more, some less. that is never gonna change.

Salar
04-10-2006, 12:37 PM
Personally, i think its a very nice post and thank you for that, however, this is not blind critisism, Mirzapour has been doing very poorly in the IPL and people have a right to critisize him, all of us want the best for our Team Melli and we cant just ignore every little problem.

Hajagha
04-10-2006, 12:45 PM
Hajagha...It is not true , or less say not accurate fact that only Daei and Mirzapour have been under attack for 3 years.

Nosrati, kazemian , Enayati , Karimi , Hashemian and the list goes on have all been subject of " Na mehrabooni" by the fans.

Whether it is justified or not ,is another matter, but the original poster's message was very clear ( at least in my point of view).

Now...... I don't need another "necessaity of criticism for the good of Iran" lecture or a course in the "Spirit of Democracy classes" either. My message is very simple, Players , coaches and people err , we should not slaughter them for their errors in one match , while clapping madly for their heroics next day.

Majid jan,

The title of this topic is "First Daei, Now Mirzapour" and I am one of the people who reply to the topic about these two. What I understood about the topic was “people, get over it, whatever you say, there is no way to change the situation” which is somehow true, however I should thank Kamran to let me come here and shout what I don’t like, after all I live for football.

What I am trying to say, if we don't talk about all those names you mentioned, what else we have to talk? Weather, Ahmadinejad or next/previous playboy model? :D

I don’t think we are different than other nations, if you check others, you will see the same materials in German, British, Italian, … forums too.

Cheers

maij
04-10-2006, 03:42 PM
I don't doubt what you have just mentioned , Haji Jan.

I just think a bit of cool , calm and collected approach to these subjects is a much better approach ( not necessarily a more effective approach, though)

Like my old master told me years ago “ Count to 5 before you open your bloody mouth!” , you probably have gathered I had a loud mouth that lashed indiscriminately and at will


Yes, granted…. at the end of the day, that is what we are here for…to talk about our beloved team and players…….Lord have mercy

Ata
04-10-2006, 03:57 PM
Ali Daei is a great player and he has proved it (stats), but Mirzapour hasn´t proved anything ! ever!

Hajagha
04-10-2006, 04:00 PM
I don't doubt what you have just mentioned , Haji Jan.

I just think a bit of cool , calm and collected approach to these subjects is a much better approach ( not necessarily a more effective approach, though)

Like my old master told me years ago “ Count to 5 before you open your bloody mouth!” , you probably have gathered I had a loud mouth that lashed indiscriminately and at will


Yes, granted…. at the end of the day, that is what we are here for…to talk about our beloved team and players…….Lord have mercy

Totally agree. :)