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Martin-Reza
02-16-2006, 10:49 AM
Goalkeepers:

Ebrahim Mirzapour
Hassan Roudbarian
Vahid Talebloo

Defenders:

Rahman Rezaei
Yahya Golmohammadi
Hossein Kaabi
Mohammad Nosrati
Amir-Hossein Sadeghi
Samad Zare
Mehdi Amirabadi

Midfielders:

Mehdi Mahdavikia
Ali Karimi
Fereydoon Zandi
Javad Nekounam
Moharram Navidkia
Mojtaba Jabbari
Mehrzad Madanchi
Mohammad Alavi
Andranyk Teymourian
Massoud Shojaei

Strikers:

Ali Daei
Vahid Hashemian
Arash Borhani
Mehdi Rajabzadeh
Javad Kazemian
Rassoul Khatibi
Siavash Akbarpour

Stand-by: Mehdi Vaezi, Ali Ansarian, Ali-Reza Nikbakht-Vahedi, Mehrdad Oladi, Gholamreza Rezaei, Gholamreza Enayati

mobali_fan
02-16-2006, 10:51 AM
Moharram Navidkia is invited but not Kazemian nor Mobali ! I don't understand Branco. I really don't

persianballer
02-16-2006, 10:53 AM
kazemian is......

Amin
02-16-2006, 10:54 AM
Moharram Navidkia is invited but not Kazemian nor Mobali ! I don't understand Branco. I really don't


hmmm... kazemian is invited ....:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Martin-Reza
02-16-2006, 10:56 AM
Moharram Navidkia is invited but not Kazemian nor Mobali ! I don't understand Branco. I really don't

Yes, Kazemian is in, I listed him as striker.

Shayan_M
02-16-2006, 10:59 AM
Good move , glad to see Roudbarian in the list , also Kazemian :)

Crooked I
02-16-2006, 11:02 AM
Who is Samad Zareh ?I first thought you mean Sattar Zareh but must be another player.

Glad to see Akbarpour,Kazemian.Overall I am happy with the list for now,but maybe Branko has merci and gives Iman another chance.I also think Navidkia is only invited because Branko doesn't want to destroy his self confidence,that is the only reason

Martin-Reza
02-16-2006, 11:03 AM
Karimi, Zandi, Navidkia, Jabbari - how many playmakers do we need? No place for Mobali.

Persio6
02-16-2006, 11:06 AM
i know maziar zareh and sattar zareh WHO is samad zareh??

and mobali is better then half the midfield invited!

Crooked I
02-16-2006, 11:08 AM
Karimi, Zandi, Navidkia, Jabbari - how many playmakers do we need? No place for Mobali.

Leave Navidkia out,MobAli in and everything is fine ;)

But as I said,this List is ok for me,I mean there r alwayws 1-2 players you want in our out but in general it is a good list.

Only sad not to see Bagheri :(,but he is too old sadly

Persio6
02-16-2006, 11:11 AM
bagheri is not even good enough for IPL! don't get me wrong he was one of the best players to ever wear the national team shirt, but his prime years are behind him and i wouldnt like to see him in there getting the same anger shown to ali daei!


Mobali should have a spot in tm and i think its because of the daei tackle that he lost his deserved world cup spot!

tiesto
02-16-2006, 11:19 AM
Midfielders:

Mehdi Mahdavikia
Ali Karimi
Fereydoon Zandi
Javad Nekounam
Moharram Navidkia
Mojtaba Jabbari
Mehrzad Madanchi
Mohammad Alavi
Andranyk Teymourian
Massoud Shojaei


good list
only missing mobali ... could replace Alavi


Defense ... Defense Defense guys
we lack Defenders =(

faraz
02-16-2006, 11:28 AM
Karimi, Zandi, Navidkia, Jabbari - how many playmakers do we need? No place for Mobali.

At this moment in time, Navidkia has NO place in TM. I'd take Mobali over him any second. C'mon MR Jan - the absence of Mobali does raise a few eyebrows. Interesting...after the Daei incident, it seems Mobali has not been called back to TM!

A little strange!

He's not even in the stand-by team?!

Otherwise, the list is just great.

tiesto
02-16-2006, 11:32 AM
guys niki's been DISGUTING lately ... he's out of shape + he can't play anymore ... he's lost his touch ...
@ least mobali could have taken his spot !

50Toman
02-16-2006, 11:37 AM
omg no mobali??!!

It makes me sad such a great player doesnt get called up and a OUTFORM navidkia does!

We want EMAN!!

Martin-Reza
02-16-2006, 11:39 AM
good list
only missing mobali ... could replace Alavi


Defense ... Defense Defense guys
we lack Defenders =(

You want defenders but want to skip a player who can play defensive mid and defender for a purely offensive mid?


At this moment in time, Navidkia has NO place in TM. I'd take Mobali over him any second. C'mon MR Jan - the absence of Mobali does raise a few eyebrows. Interesting...after the Daei incident, it seems Mobali has not been called back to TM!
A little strange!
He's not even in the stand-by team?!
Otherwise, the list is just great.

Navidkia's not in good shape, but Navidkia in good shape showed good performances in TM while Mobali even in top shape never was really good in TM. So I can understand that a coach sticks to a player with, seemingly, more class.


But as I said,this List is ok for me,I mean there r alwayws 1-2 players you want in our out but in general it is a good list.


Exactly, there can't be no list satifying 60 million potential TM coaches at once.

50Toman
02-16-2006, 11:41 AM
Navidkia's not in good shape, but Navidkia in good shape showed good performances in TM while Mobali even in top shape never was really good in TM. So I can understand that a coach sticks to a player with, seemingly, more class.How many chances was he given? He was the best player during the QPR match... and navidkia has more class than mob'ali? come on :rolleyes:

Anyway besides the absence of mobali i am satisfied with this list.

1908
02-16-2006, 11:44 AM
i cant believe navidkia is in ...but im sure he wont get 2 much playing time

ird28
02-16-2006, 11:48 AM
damn I wished for shirzad, but there are already sadeghi and amirabadi. its OK

I had replaced navidkia too. if not with mobali then at least with kavianpour.


but all in all its a good list and I'm satisfied

tiesto
02-16-2006, 11:48 AM
You want defenders but want to skip a player who can play defensive mid and defender for a purely offensive mid?

well we have madanchi for that purpose ( he's just like kaabi but on the left)(both offensive + defensive) as well as Mohammad Nosrati & Samad Zare
so why niki !
mobali is purely offense ... just like zandi

tiesto
02-16-2006, 11:50 AM
Exactly, there can't be no list satifying 60 million potential TM coaches at once.


im 100% satisfied with the list ...
he's the coach ... stating opinions is what forums are all about . It's people who start cursing branko who misrepresent ....
i merely stated my opinion on this matter :bow: :eyebrows: :D

persian-eagle-13
02-16-2006, 12:00 PM
How many chances was he given? He was the best player during the QPR match... and navidkia has more class than mob'ali? come on :rolleyes:

Anyway besides the absence of mobali i am satisfied with this list.

the list looks good. as far as mobail, he should be in the TM, but so should navidkia. i have to say navidkia usually performs better then mobail in the TM, and since we have 3 games in the WC, i would use him instead of mobail, i think he is good enough to be on the bench.

Martin-Reza
02-16-2006, 12:02 PM
well we have madanchi for that purpose ( he's just like kaabi but on the left)(both offensive + defensive) as well as Mohammad Nosrati & Samad Zare
so why niki !
mobali is purely offense ... just like zandi

Madanchi is not compareable to Alavi. Madanchi cannot play centerback, while Alavi is regulary playing there at Foolad.

So if you wanna bring on Mobali, find an offensive player to replace. For me it wouldn't be so hard. Mobali seems stronger than Siavash Akbarpour and some others, but then again if I was so clever I would coach TM and not sit in front of my computer now :)

faraz
02-16-2006, 12:02 PM
Navidkia's not in good shape, but Navidkia in good shape showed good performances in TM while Mobali even in top shape never was really good in TM. So I can understand that a coach sticks to a player with, seemingly, more class.


If NavdiKia is not in good shape, how can he give good performances for TM? He hasn't played football in I don't know how long, but Mobali has been performing better and better every week. I think there is more to it than simply "Navidkia has more class" than Mobali. At the moment, Mobali has much more class, and seems to be much more ready than Navidkia.

I think it's a strange decision, and would love to know the reasoning behind it. Human jan may be able to answer my question - there is probably something in there that we don't necessarily know about.

Mansoor
02-16-2006, 12:05 PM
Questions about Samad Zareh:

First, I hope this is not an error. Maybe, they did mean Satar.

Any how, Samad Zareh is a tall physical defender that plays central defense. Product of Fajr Shiraz has transferred to Bargh Shiraz this year after unsuccessful negotiation with Perspolis.

Zareh was the member of Iran's U19 national team along with Mobali and Kazemian. He accompanied that team into U19 Asian Cup as well as U20 World Cup. Struggled with couple of injuries in his career and for the first time, he is being called back since U19 team.

He also played defensive midfield in Fajr but his specialty is central defense. His physique is EXCELLENT for his position but his speed is a bit questionable.

tiesto
02-16-2006, 12:08 PM
Madanchi is not compareable to Alavi. Madanchi cannot play centerback, while Alavi is regulary playing there at Foolad.
So if you wanna bring on Mobali, find an offensive player to replace. For me it wouldn't be so hard. Mobali seems stronger than Siavash Akbarpour and some others, but then again if I was so clever I would coach TM and not sit in front of my computer now :)

now i see your point :bow: :bow:
BTW
can someone please confirm
I don't know if i heard right but apparantly during the Esteghlal half time show, branko conducted an interview or they showed a rerun from an earlier interview ... and he said the german based players won't be able to make it to the costa rica game ... IS THIS TRUE ! ?
i know we wont have them for the chinese taipe game ... but for costa rica ...its a WC prep , they should be there

Mansoor
02-16-2006, 12:10 PM
^^^ They'll be here 3 days before the match. IFF official website confirmed.

MrBrightside
02-16-2006, 12:13 PM
Its simple, Mobali doesn't like sitting on the bench and lets the media know about it !!!
Branco doesn't like that, remember a while back ??? The point is Mobali shouldnt have got upset so as to now be given the "Azizi" treatment.
BUT, Mobali should be there, infact in the starting 11.

Navidkia's not in good shape, but Navidkia in good shape showed good performances in TM while Mobali even in top shape never was really good in TM. So I can understand that a coach sticks to a player with, seemingly, more class.
Exactly, there can't be no list satifying 60 million potential TM coaches at once.
Well, i cant rember Zandi having a great game for TM, infact as far as i remember Mobali has had better performances whilst being treated worse !!!
Also, Navidkia has never been awesome for TM either. He was really good in the Olympic team, in which Mobali too was awesome.
I dont want another Azizi scenario, its sad so many of our players enter almost personal feuds with our Coaches. Remember Pourheidari and Abedzadeh...:angry:
Didnt expect this from Branco !!! :angry:

bsshq7
02-16-2006, 12:18 PM
whenever is iran's left fullback solved???

Amin_
02-16-2006, 12:46 PM
It's really a shame Mobali isn't invited! Not even as a stand in :confused:

Besides that, the list looks good enough.
Only what happened to Ansarian and Kavianpour?! I thought they were supposed to get invited as well...

I'm glad Sadeghi and Akbarpour being there, I only hope that they'll get a real chance...

Now only if Bagheri's name (and Mobali's) gets in there before the WC it'll be (almost) perfect!

Doctor DOOM
02-16-2006, 12:50 PM
namjoo motlagh deserves a call up too.

he was in great shape a while ago.
and him in such a shape totally outclasses zandi, alavi, nekounam, navidkia, ..... .

Agha Kasra
02-16-2006, 12:53 PM
why does branko love Nosrati,, :S I really dont get that, just because his goal to bahrain made us win I think,, and mohammad alavi,, and ALi daei,, baba boro dige,,

im glad that we have our leftback (sadeghi) so its benchtime for nosrati, thank God,, now we need one good kick on daei's knee and we're ready for WC:D

gol_kuchik
02-16-2006, 01:07 PM
I think in goal keepers we have a perfect group.
In defence, not so sure. If Branko is paying attention to the engine of our team
Mehdi, he would consider the role Mehdi is playing for Hamburg and try to rearrange pieces based on that.

As for Moharam, Branko is telling the kid he needs to pick himself up, but also telling
his starters like Nosrati, he has faith in them and they should play hard.

Overall, I'm more interested to see the arrangment than the players names.

Will Zandi play winger again? If Mehdi is a defensive back what will Kaabi do?
Who'll play our left back?

Guess that will be the topic after Taipe game.

Fabulous
02-16-2006, 01:22 PM
Karimi, Zandi, Navidkia, Jabbari - how many playmakers do we need? No place for Mobali.
martin aziz, its a good list but look at the current form of navidkia and compare it with mobali's. and my question is who deserves the spot?

politics my friend.. mobali wont be invited unless he apologizes to ali daei

alireza
02-16-2006, 01:28 PM
Overall a very predictable list...

I think Branko is generally a good coach and I support him, but one thing he definately lacks is finding and using new and previously unknown talent as opposed to his old boss Blaz who I think did this very well vis a vis Rahman Rezaei, Mirzapoor, Golmohammadi to name a few...

This selection just goes to show he just went down the list every sports writer and fan knows about... No big surprise :(

Doctor DOOM
02-16-2006, 01:31 PM
As for Moharam, Branko is telling the kid he needs to pick himself up, but also telling
his starters like Nosrati, he has faith in them and they should play hard.



.......... while telling another deserving player "he DOESNT need to pick himself up. and whatever he does is a waste of time and energy, coz I'm a hypocrtical moron" !

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btw, any news on namjoo motlagh joining TM's midfield yet?

sarbaz
02-16-2006, 01:31 PM
Faraki Called The Khabar News Chanel And Corrected One Of Those Names Which Is Supposed To Be Sattar Zare Not Samad Zare.

Crooked I
02-16-2006, 01:39 PM
Faraki Called The Khabar News Chanel And Corrected One Of Those Names Which Is Supposed To Be Sattar Zare Not Samad Zare.

i guessed so,damn man sattar zareh in our team is so bad man :(

mehdy
02-16-2006, 01:40 PM
namjoo motlagh deserves a call up too.

he was in great shape a while ago.
and him in such a shape totally outclasses zandi, alavi, nekounam, navidkia, ..... .

namjoo motlagh???

I thik he is around 38 years old now..Dose he still play?

alireza
02-16-2006, 01:41 PM
zareh has failed to do anything is TM... As far as I'm concerned he has a net negative impact whenever his has come on the pitch for TM... :(

alireza
02-16-2006, 01:42 PM
what about pashazadeh instead of zareh?? or something like that... Man I really don't know what branko sees in this guy..

Hadi
02-16-2006, 01:48 PM
IMPORTANT:

IRIB just corrected the Zare issue

Sattar Zare is invited (not Samad Zare, his teammate)

Hamsafar
02-16-2006, 01:57 PM
Not inviting Mobali is just insane...I donīt know whether to laugh or to cry..!!:angry:

Mobali is one of the best off. midfilder we have right now. Navidkia is in a horrible shape and still he gets invited.

But anyway... You wonīt see Mobali in TM until after WC, and when Branco and DAEI retire..!!!! Just wait and see..!!:furious:

Hadi
02-16-2006, 01:59 PM
I am not complaining about 1-2 players (like Mobali), I put them down to Branko's personal taste.

And I can see signs of him paying attention to the IPL. Lets see how many of them will actually start instead of the usual non-performers.

yashar_fasihnia
02-16-2006, 02:02 PM
hmm...
one interesting observation, we have just one left midfielder for our game against taiwan and that is madanchi! nikki is standby and maneii isnt even invited! if for some reason god forbid madanchi gets injured or something, we have no left footer for TM!
so i guess branko will use amirabadi/sattar zare for LB and LM?
i hope not navidkia,jabbari or shojaei!

and one more thing, i dont really like navidkia upthere, at the moment, not cos he is not in form(we all know he isnt) and not cos this shows branko's soft corner for him(which we all know agian) but im scared he might use navidkia instead of jabbari in the taiwan game since we wont be having karimi!

and wats up with so many strikers? only 1 of them is legionnar, others all are in IPL! but on the other side,half our midfielders are abroad and we wont be having them! so i guess we will be using some of our strikers as midfiled again if necessary!

mirzapour,talebloo & roudbarian looks like the best option to me too but that means esteghlal might have to play rahmati now (incase the IPL continues and esteghlal is forced to play)..

and yes, mobali deserved a place there! how come oladi is getting atleast a standy by even though we have 7 other strikers in the main list but just 4 midfielders and mobali doesnt even get a standby! i wouldnt mind seeing mobali instead of khatibi in that list! for heavens sake, wat do we need 7 forwards for?? when we play with maximum 2 forwards and sometimes even 1!!

and nosrati is a good choice, since we wont be having rezai in our game against taiwan, i guess yahya & nosrati will be our 2 CB's with zare & kaabi at their sides.

EKBATAN
02-16-2006, 02:09 PM
Akbarpoor

Will

Shine!!!!!

gol_kuchik
02-16-2006, 02:16 PM
I am also disspointed in seeing Madanchi and Zare in and not Manee. Heck even the
Shamooshak left footed middlefielder (name escapes me) is better than these guys.

I have watched couple of Bargh games and Zare has been horrible, and Madanchi has
a 50 percent accuracy in his passing. He does hustle but ....

As for Mobali, I think Mobali has to learn from Mahdavikia. Hopefully next WC.

Doctor DOOM
02-16-2006, 02:27 PM
namjoo motlagh???
I thik he is around 38 years old now..Dose he still play?


why not?

we certainyl like to justify x or y's presence with "they used to be good at one time" reasoning.
who cares how these players are at PRESENT ?

so why not namjoo?

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and what does mobaali has to learn from Kia?
to play well?
to be the star of his team?
to perform week in and week out?
he's done that and more.

hypocrisy has limits too.

lets not be hypocrits and judge EVERYONE by the same ruling :


1- what has zandi done lately?

2- navidkia?

3- niki?

4- ansarian ?

5- alavi ?

6- zareh ?

7- madanchi ?

P.Nima
02-16-2006, 02:28 PM
Karimi, Zandi, Navidkia, Jabbari - how many playmakers do we need? No place for Mobali.
Mobalis recent performance have been better than all the players you listed.

rutgers
02-16-2006, 02:29 PM
samad zareh plays for barghe shiraz I believe, not sure though.

P.Nima
02-16-2006, 02:32 PM
Not inviting Mobali is just insane...I donīt know whether to laugh or to cry..!!:angry:
Mobali is one of the best off. midfilder we have right now. Navidkia is in a horrible shape and still he gets invited.
But anyway... You wonīt see Mobali in TM until after WC, and when Branco and DAEI retire..!!!! Just wait and see..!!:furious:
He havnt been invited since he tackled Daei in IPL. Do you remember when he said to a newspaper that he wouldnt let Mobali be invited to TM anymore when he was angry.
That makes me think, does Daei have the power to let a player not be invited? Is Daei the reason?
Navidkia havnt played a good game for almost 2 years. Why should he play instaead of Mobali who is very hot in UAE.

Doctor DOOM
02-16-2006, 02:38 PM
He havnt been invited since he tackled Daei in IPL. Do you remember when he said to a newspaper that he wouldnt let Mobali be invited to TM anymore when he was angry.
That makes me think, does Daei have the power to let a player not be invited? Is Daei the reason?
Navidkia havnt played a good game for almost 2 years. Why should he play instaead of Mobali who is very hot in UAE.


even if this is true and mobaali's exclusion is becoz of daei incident :

why shd we want such a coach who has all the WRONG criteria in calling up players for the team?

why shd we trust such a mentality, that obviously does NOT prioritise the TEAM's performance, and caves in to personal vendetta ?

why shd we see such a person , who obviously has no spine or guts to stand up to whoever, and say "the TEAM & its performance is more important to me than personal problems. if I see x or y ADDS to the team, I will do all I can to make this team the best it COULD BE" ?


mobaali, mani'ee and heidari have as much ( and more, in fact ) to be there as anyone and everyone called up in this list.

mehdy
02-16-2006, 02:40 PM
why not?

we certainyl like to justify x or y's presence with "they used to be good at one time" reasoning.
who cares how these players are at PRESENT ?

so why not namjoo?



I don't say do not invite namjoo.I wanted only to get to know whether he was still playing or not.

Haf3z
02-16-2006, 02:40 PM
Will we ba able to see the game on IRIB?

mehdy
02-16-2006, 02:43 PM
samad zareh plays for barghe shiraz I believe, not sure though.

Sattar & Samad Zare play with Bargh SHZ now.
http://www.iplstats.com/playersteam10.htm

Persio6
02-16-2006, 02:45 PM
mehdy
namjoo has long retired! he was being sarcastic because some members insist on players that were good at one point and keep getting called up while others who are good now are being overlooked!

example people calling for bagheri, or seeing sattar zareh, daei, navidkia invited!

Malkay
02-16-2006, 02:52 PM
The more I look at the midfield, the more I think that, once Daei retires, we should focus on playing Vahid as a lone striker with Karimi playing off of him! It would be nice to have Mobali back in the midfield, but until he returns Navidkia can do the job. We could even try it against Costa Rica, coz we'll need to be more defensive minded and have a bit more pace, in the Mexico and Portugal games especially, which is what daei lacks!

In terms of the squad announcement, no surprises (but I'd rather have an extra defender in there instead of 6 strikers!)... but it should be interesting to see who branko plays for the C.T. game given that the foreign based players wont be there! Personally, I'd like to see Branko start a different keeper (preferably talebloo)... just to give someone else a go in between the sticks, get a bit of experience down them!

Vahid Hashemian
02-16-2006, 02:53 PM
He havnt been invited since he tackled Daei in IPL. Do you remember when he said to a newspaper that he wouldnt let Mobali be invited to TM anymore when he was angry.
That makes me think, does Daei have the power to let a player not be invited? Is Daei the reason?
Navidkia havnt played a good game for almost 2 years. Why should he play instaead of Mobali who is very hot in UAE.
yes azizam, he has the power all of the players who will invitied or not!!
He is the reason!!!!! :furious:
It's not bran*** fault, it's daei!! he will just destroy us from everything, he can not understand that he is to old now and must retire!!!!!
He is not like 5-6 years ago. Do you know why daei has the power???

P.Nima
02-16-2006, 02:54 PM
even if this is true and mobaali's exclusion is becoz of daei incident :
why shd we want such a coach who has all the WRONG criteria in calling up players for the team?
why shd we trust such a mentality, that obviously does NOT prioritise the TEAM's performance, and caves in to personal vendetta ?
why shd we see such a person , who obviously has no spine or guts to stand up to whoever, and say "the TEAM & its performance is more important to me than personal problems. if I see x or y ADDS to the team, I will do all I can to make this team the best it COULD BE" ?
mobaali, mani'ee and heidari have as much ( and more, in fact ) to be there as anyone and everyone called up in this list.
Very true, I agree with you.
Branko isnt the right person for a team like Iran, he would fit to a team like Latvia or Finland, boring teams.
Its like letting Otto Reignhagel coach Brazil.
He's scared to experiment with players that deserve to be in the squad more than Daei or Navidkia.
Daei have scored 4-5 goals in almost 20 games and have been playing awfully. I can give you 20 IPL strikers that are better than him in every aspect.
But WHY is he still playing? He is not that miracolous player that we have thought he is for several years. In every other modern country, he would have been out of the team in the age of 33-34, not 38-40.

TM needs to get rid of the two pests, Daei and Branko.

I promise you, when those two persons leave TM, and we hopefully get a new coach, we will be a powerhouse in Asia, FOR REAL.

SS2006
02-16-2006, 02:55 PM
this lineup is for what game..?

mehdy
02-16-2006, 02:59 PM
mehdy
namjoo has long retired! he was being sarcastic because some members insist on players that were good at one point and keep getting called up while others who are good now are being overlooked!
example people calling for bagheri, or seeing sattar zareh, daei, navidkia invited!

Ok,i see:D thx.

I had seen him in the game that Iran vs Japan 8 years ago. Namojoo participated this match instead of Bagheri.I thought him to be nostalgic.

BacheLot
02-16-2006, 03:12 PM
good list....
with the exception of navidkia being there and leaving out mobali which makes me wonder what really went down between branko and mobali the last time there was a piss fight between the two of them when mobali himself claimed that he doesnot want to play for tm anymore (and a bunch of other childish crap). although daie's influence on this decision cant be discounted too much,
i would have to assume that leaving mobali out was mainly because of a deciplinary reasons by branko. apparantly he is assuming that mobali's occational childish outbursts in media and his questionings of the coaching staff decisions would cause disharmony in tm.
and for anyone who want to justify that performance wise he rightfully doesnt belong in that list ahead of quite a few other players is just blind and full of shiit..

Ala
02-16-2006, 03:15 PM
... WHO is samad zareh??


Bargh Shiraz defender. He is rather tall. He played with PP today.

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Ala
02-16-2006, 03:24 PM
... the absence of Mobali does raise a few eyebrows. Interesting...after the Daei incident, it seems Mobali has not been called back to TM!...


In the chance that he had to lay in TM, Iman did not do well. There also seems to be some major disagreements between Branko and Mobali that we probably do not know about. Branko said before "Mobali knows what he should do to get invited". I am GUESSING that the two disagree on the position he should play. Branko wants him to train differently for a different position than he is playing right now but Iman does not want to do that. There is currently a congestion of players in the mid-field. I don't think this is related to the Daei incident. Mobali has said that if he sees Daei he will apologize for the foul but he insists that the fould was technical and not intentional.

I hope that Iman resolves the issues and gets invited back to TM in the future.

.

Hamsafar
02-16-2006, 03:29 PM
even if this is true and mobaali's exclusion is becoz of daei incident :
why shd we want such a coach who has all the WRONG criteria in calling up players for the team?
why shd we trust such a mentality, that obviously does NOT prioritise the TEAM's performance, and caves in to personal vendetta ?
why shd we see such a person , who obviously has no spine or guts to stand up to whoever, and say "the TEAM & its performance is more important to me than personal problems. if I see x or y ADDS to the team, I will do all I can to make this team the best it COULD BE" ?
mobaali, mani'ee and heidari have as much ( and more, in fact ) to be there as anyone and everyone called up in this list.


Ecxactly DD jan..Very well said.

This is a character of MR. Branco. He hasnīt got the guts and he is mascot.

I can give you another example..Branco was forced to invite Azizi to TM..!

Arashi_Washi
02-16-2006, 03:31 PM
Great list,

Wonderful midfield,

But i would of liked to see Mobali there to

Hamsafar
02-16-2006, 03:36 PM
In the chance that he had to lay in TM, Iman did not do well.



Dooste aziz:

Could you be more specific about the last chances given to Mobali..! The last match I remember was against QPR, and he was one of the best that day...!! I can give you several names of players that arenīt in a good shape and are not performing well, but still Branco keeps inviting them..!!

Hamid_Khan
02-16-2006, 03:41 PM
This is an absolute outrage! Mobali is by far the most in-form midfielder we have. He is in better shape than Karimi, Nekounam, Jabbari and certainly Navidkia. To be honest Navidkia is a horrible horrible player. One might wonder why on earth Bochum's scouts recommended this guy to their board.

Otherwise, there are too many strikers and too little defenders. Branko really needs to do something about the left back position, quite frankly it's embarrassing to have player like Zareh there.

Hadi
02-16-2006, 03:41 PM
BABA FOR THE LAST TIME:

SATTAR ZARE IS INVITED - NOT SAMAD (HIS TEAMMATE)
IFF SITE WROTE HIS NAME INCORRECTLY

Crooked I
02-16-2006, 03:44 PM
loooooool @ iff site

soniq
02-16-2006, 03:45 PM
BABA FOR THE LAST TIME:
SATTAR ZARE IS INVITED - NOT SAMAD (HIS TEAMMATE)
IFF SITE WROTE HIS NAME INCORRECTLY
chera mizani hala baba? hala ya satar ya samad che farghi mikone?:D ;)

ashkan90
02-16-2006, 04:00 PM
This is an absolute outrage! Mobali is by far the most in-form midfielder we have. He is in better shape than Karimi....

Yes, compare Al Shabab (or Kabab?) with Bayern München.:rolleyes:

Hamid_Khan
02-16-2006, 04:09 PM
Yes, compare Al Shabab (or Kabab?) with Bayern München.:rolleyes:


How is that relevant with what I wrote? I was talking about the most in form players, this has nothing to do with which clubs they play.

Arashi_Washi
02-16-2006, 04:12 PM
How is that relevant with what I wrote? I was talking about the most in form players, this has nothing to do with which clubs they play.

Mobali should play in Team melli but When Mobali returns to IPL with foolad his chances of getting invited will deffinatly increase

Mobali should be in Team melli, Deffinnatly

The competition in the Iranian midfield is a joy to watch

Ata
02-16-2006, 04:16 PM
madanchi shouldnīt be invited... instead Manee should be.

kian_b
02-16-2006, 04:17 PM
why not?

we certainyl like to justify x or y's presence with "they used to be good at one time" reasoning.
who cares how these players are at PRESENT ?

so why not namjoo?

-----------------------

and what does mobaali has to learn from Kia?
to play well?
to be the star of his team?
to perform week in and week out?
he's done that and more.
hypocrisy has limits too.

lets not be hypocrits and judge EVERYONE by the same ruling :


1- what has zandi done lately?

2- navidkia?

3- niki?

4- ansarian ?

5- alavi ?

6- zareh ?

7- madanchi ?



as far as zandi is concerned he hasn't done much. but his experience is very worthy and when you see him play he is getting more and more confident and starts playing better again. i believe in him and it's good that he has a starting spot.

kian_b
02-16-2006, 04:27 PM
How is that relevant with what I wrote? I was talking about the most in form players, this has nothing to do with which clubs they play.

of course it is relevant.. if mobali would have played in the bundesliga against those high-standard teams you wouldn't say he is in form. in munich ali has much more competition and the opposing players have much more class. ali would shine in mobalis team as well and believe me, he would shine much more.

shahname
02-16-2006, 04:28 PM
I really like Brancoīs selection. The only tiny thing is the question why Mobali is not invited?? But then again, maybe they know something that we donīt. Maybe they are afraid he would disrupt the peace in the TM camp.

zereshk-ali
02-16-2006, 04:54 PM
Not a bad squad. Would have liked Manei and Mobali in there.

Also time is running out to try people like Kavianpour and Samereh in an international environment. We really didnīt need to have called up the big guns for this one.

zereshk-ali
02-16-2006, 04:57 PM
The reason that Zandi has been called up is that he is one of the few players we have that has sufficient technique to be capable of playing the quick passing football that we need at the world cup. It would be a really big mistake to discard him now.

MSH
02-16-2006, 05:25 PM
BABA FOR THE LAST TIME:
SATTAR ZARE IS INVITED - NOT SAMAD (HIS TEAMMATE)
IFF SITE WROTE HIS NAME INCORRECTLY

Yes I agree, it's good that Samad Zare is invited! :D

sffootball
02-16-2006, 05:51 PM
Very true, I agree with you.
Branko isnt the right person for a team like Iran, he would fit to a team like Latvia or Finland, boring teams.
Its like letting Otto Reignhagel coach Brazil.
He's scared to experiment with players that deserve to be in the squad more than Daei or Navidkia.
Daei have scored 4-5 goals in almost 20 games and have been playing awfully. I can give you 20 IPL strikers that are better than him in every aspect.
But WHY is he still playing? He is not that miracolous player that we have thought he is for several years. In every other modern country, he would have been out of the team in the age of 33-34, not 38-40.
TM needs to get rid of the two pests, Daei and Branko.
I promise you, when those two persons leave TM, and we hopefully get a new coach, we will be a powerhouse in Asia, FOR REAL.
Well said.....It seems as though we never learn and we play the same mistakes over and over again. It is truely a shame that Mobali is not invited.

Martin-Reza
02-16-2006, 06:02 PM
Yes I agree, it's good that Samad Zare is invited! :D

loool

But why Samad and not Sattar :)?

saeed_noro
02-16-2006, 06:20 PM
LOOOL baba what are you all saying?

Branco invited 27 players, and in WC ROSTER only 24 players can be!!!!

YANI 3 FIELD PLAYERS MUST ALSO GO....although Mobali really deserves to be in the team, and Oladi too man.

But if you want or not, Branco can only and will only take 3 goal keepers and 21 players with himself to Germany..

Players like

Navidkia
Akbarpour
Khatibi
Teymourian
(Alavi; probably not because his important position)
Zare
Madaanchi
Enayati
Ansarian
Sadeghi
Oladi
Mobali
Jabbari
Shojaei
Rajabzadeh

must fight for the places, soem of them canīt make the trip to germany, and although navidkia performerd really really bad and i was shocked, he should get another chances, but even Mobali also!

There are no places for Bagheri, Azizi, Chaghu-kesh & Co.

Only 21 FIELD PLAYERS can go to Germany..and therefore i agree with Branko that we have already 2 strikers better as Enayati (Daei & Hashemian) which are 16 metre BOX STRIKERS. So we only need two or probably 3 more strikers, and this two should be COUNTER ATTACK (Borhani; Akbarpour probably or Khatibi or Rajabzadeh...) And i think Borhani is definetely our 3rd striker and fastest Counter Attack Striker with more TM experience as the others..

and nosrati deserves to be in TM - He played very good in IPL and every week he scores goal as i read the scorelines..and he often scored important goals for our TM and this is his deserve, and you should know, we havenīt so or so not soo many other experienced TM defenders..

But Mobali vaghan GONAH DAREH - be sure branco knows that he can only take 21 field players, from now he has to decided and doesnīt invite him...fro some reason..but he normally deserves really man, Mobali should call Branco!

Saeed

ashkan90
02-16-2006, 06:52 PM
of course it is relevant.. if mobali would have played in the bundesliga against those high-standard teams you wouldn't say he is in form. in munich ali has much more competition and the opposing players have much more class. ali would shine in mobalis team as well and believe me, he would shine much more.

Exactly what i wanted to say. Imagine Mobali in Bayern's team.:rolleyes:

But of course he must be in TM!

Ala
02-16-2006, 06:58 PM
loool
But why Samad and not Sattar :)?


apparently this was a mistake. IFF site now sez Sattar!

.

Doctor DOOM
02-16-2006, 07:14 PM
In the chance that he had to lay in TM, Iman did not do well. There also seems to be some major disagreements between Branko and Mobali that we probably do not know about. Branko said before "Mobali knows what he should do to get invited". I am GUESSING that the two disagree on the position he should play. Branko wants him to train differently for a different position than he is playing right now but Iman does not want to do that. There is currently a congestion of players in the mid-field. I don't think this is related to the Daei incident. Mobali has said that if he sees Daei he will apologize for the foul but he insists that the fould was technical and not intentional.

I hope that Iman resolves the issues and gets invited back to TM in the future.

.

1- first of all, ala jan, if we have one measuring stick for one player, we must use the same for others.

could you plz tell me how and if players like navidkia, zareh, madanchi, .... have set thw world on fire to justify their presence ??? this is irrespective of the position, 'course.

WHY THE DOUBLE STANDARDS ?
I mean I know branko has double standards .... but we cant follow suit , just to excuse his !!!


2- unless we were there when branko and mobaali had that discussion and disagreement, I dont think we can claim such things.

and even then, I am amused at this:
branko, playing players OUT of their natural position?
:eek:

shall we go through the long lise ?
vh, zareh, nosrati, borhani, navidkia, zandi, .....

yes, he could do worse, and play kaabi in as the keeper !!

maybe it would take such a brilliant positioning to finally drive the point home !!


3- this is extremely UNFAIR to twist reality to make mobaali as a culprit and guilty :
"I hope that Iman resolves the issues...."

first of all he has NOT done anything wrong.

secondly, what else he has to do?
play well?
score goals?
assist?
keep quiet , even at the face of most unfair treatment from his coach ( ... and FANS * ??? ) ?

(* - now we see the same "heroes" that we're supposed to revere, are actually LESS than branko, and we can tarnish these "heroes' image" as long as we defend/excuse branko's wrong-doings and LAJBAAZI !!! )

should he maybe cut off his left arm ?
maybe that would satisfy branko.

so what else is left for a football player to do ?


extremely unfair remark on mobaali !! :(

Paradigm
02-16-2006, 08:21 PM
... You wonīt see Mobali in TM until after WC, and when Branco and DAEI retire..!!!! Just wait and see..!!:furious:

Exactly my thoughts. Really really sad. :blob:

the-ali
02-16-2006, 08:35 PM
Agree with everyone on the lineup, especialy nice to see Shojaei and Jabbari in there. Dissapointed not to see Mobali

Mack
02-16-2006, 08:47 PM
It shows that Daei"s political connection with regime is paying off for him.
He had told Mobaeli that he wouldn"t let him to play in TM.Mafia

MSH
02-16-2006, 10:10 PM
loool
But why Samad and not Sattar :)?

:D :D I think because Samad is a better player -- I'm glad Hadi corrected the name, I was getting confused! :D :D

darvish_gorgali
02-16-2006, 10:33 PM
loool
But why Samad and not Sattar :)?

Samad be teame Melli miravad..:D :D :D


and mordeshore on nosrati ro bebaram ke bazam davat shod...absolutely unfair ...how come mobali is not invited...how about enayati..even though i don't like enayati but i think he deserves it at this moment...instead this wimmpy coach invited navidkia and madanchi...i feel sorry

footballist
02-16-2006, 11:29 PM
guys niki's been DISGUTING lately ... he's out of shape + he can't play anymore ... he's lost his touch ...
@ least mobali could have taken his spot !


I don't know what IPL games you've been watching lately, but Niki has been solid and definitely the X-factor in the latest Eses wins. He has been involved in most of Eses's goals with an assist or started the attack that lead to the goals. I would rather see him in the first pick list instead of Navidkia, Alavi, or Madanchi. The fact that Niki is at least in the stand-by list shows Branko also knows he is getting back to top form.

Ala
02-16-2006, 11:46 PM
...
first of all he has NOT done anything wrong.

secondly, what else he has to do?
play well?
score goals?
assist?
keep quiet , even at the face of most unfair treatment from his coach ( ... and FANS * ??? ) ?
...
so what else is left for a football player to do ?
extremely unfair remark on mobaali !! :(


I think this is the HEART of your problem with Branko.

1- In Branko's thinking, players are only useful when they contribute to the system.

2- In your view (typical Iranian) if a player plays well, scores goals, and assists, then he should be invited.

No wonder why you love Mayeli Kohan over Branko! Coz, Mayeli Kohan was really a Futsal coach where the game is based on individual skills. BUT, moedrn Footbll is very different! Player is in service of the team and the value of the players are based on their level of contribution to the system.

Branko = System
Mayeli Kohan = Individual skill

and that is why you like Mayeli Kohan over Branko coz you do not like games that are heavily pre-planned! you like to let the players play their system naturally! It is the clash of modern and Sonnati/Gheirati system!

If Branko asked Iman to play a certain role and Iman declined, then he loses his importanec in the system. Player cannot impose himself on the team, it should be vice-versa. Kia's situation this season is a very good example of how a very good player may be asked to leve if he is not contributing to the team's system.

.

Aryan
02-17-2006, 12:44 AM
MOBALI! WTF!!! Branko!!!

Doctor DOOM
02-17-2006, 12:54 AM
yup. branko = system.
that's why under him we havent seen ANY teamwork ... even though the bum has been here for 5 years !!!


unless; branko's system = NO teamwork !!!

since this is the only explanation for how miserable our lack of teamwork under branko and his inability to achieve even A SEMBLANCE of teamwork !!

RaginG Inferno
02-17-2006, 01:43 AM
yup. branko = system.
that's why under him we havent seen ANY teamwork ... even though the bum has been here for 5 years !!!
unless; branko's system = NO teamwork !!!
since this is the only explanation for how miserable our lack of teamwork under branko and his inability to achieve even A SEMBLANCE of teamwork !!
Iran has played many games with teamwork under Branko. I think you are exaggerating here!

mehdy
02-17-2006, 03:39 AM
Samad Zareh is this guy.

Birth:1981/9/16 188cm 80kg
He was Olympic squad.(Mayelikohan's team)

sheerkhan
02-17-2006, 03:54 AM
Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeey:furious: :furious: :furious: :furious:
WERE IZ EMAN MOBALI :angry: THIS IS BULL SHIT BELIVE ME ........!!

Arashi_Washi
02-17-2006, 04:13 AM
Samad Zareh is this guy.
Birth:1981/9/16 188cm 80kg
He was Olympic squad.(Mayelikohan's team)

So i am confused here OK

Is it Samad Zareh who is invited or Sattar Zareh. ?

:) Appreciated if someone can clear this out for me

KasraKhan
02-17-2006, 04:35 AM
So i am confused here OK
Is it Samad Zareh who is invited or Sattar Zareh. ?
:) Appreciated if someone can clear this out for me
Sattar!!!!!!!!!

Soaz...(Stoned)
02-17-2006, 04:35 AM
hmm...
one interesting observation, we have just one left midfielder for our game against taiwan and that is madanchi! nikki is standby and maneii isnt even invited! if for some reason god forbid madanchi gets injured or something, we have no left footer for TM!
so i guess branko will use amirabadi/sattar zare for LB and LM?
i hope not navidkia,jabbari or shojaei!
and one more thing, i dont really like navidkia upthere, at the moment, not cos he is not in form(we all know he isnt) and not cos this shows branko's soft corner for him(which we all know agian) but im scared he might use navidkia instead of jabbari in the taiwan game since we wont be having karimi!
and wats up with so many strikers? only 1 of them is legionnar, others all are in IPL! but on the other side,half our midfielders are abroad and we wont be having them! so i guess we will be using some of our strikers as midfiled again if necessary!
mirzapour,talebloo & roudbarian looks like the best option to me too but that means esteghlal might have to play rahmati now (incase the IPL continues and esteghlal is forced to play)..
and yes, mobali deserved a place there! how come oladi is getting atleast a standy by even though we have 7 other strikers in the main list but just 4 midfielders and mobali doesnt even get a standby! i wouldnt mind seeing mobali instead of khatibi in that list! for heavens sake, wat do we need 7 forwards for?? when we play with maximum 2 forwards and sometimes even 1!!
and nosrati is a good choice, since we wont be having rezai in our game against taiwan, i guess yahya & nosrati will be our 2 CB's with zare & kaabi at their sides.

Well your the one with that "guys" pic on ur avatar.

BRANKO...GET LOST!!!!

No Mobali!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WTF!!!!!!!!!

He has no logic AT ALL behind his selections. If players like Mobali don't get in, decent IPL players who are as under-rated as HELL will NEVER get into TM. Players like Bahodarani or Badamaki or Montezeri or Maneei!!!!!

I am very disapointed we have this "guy" as out TM coach, the guy hasn't even been a manager, and we give him he spot, what a mistake that was!

KasraKhan
02-17-2006, 04:36 AM
First of all, this is a great thread with a really good discussion and I really enjoyed reading it, keep up the good posts guys.

2nd of all, it really amazes me how low Nikbakht has fallen. He was one of our best players at one point, and now he didnt even get called up and is a stand-by.

KasraKhan
02-17-2006, 04:39 AM
It shows that Daei"s political connection with regime is paying off for him.
He had told Mobaeli that he wouldn"t let him to play in TM.Mafia
:banhim:

Arashi_Washi
02-17-2006, 04:39 AM
I fully Agree with Soaz jan,

Players like Manei and Montazeri should deffinatly be invited,
I mean i gotta say this is a good list BUT still Branko have done some mistakes even in this list

And i mean I am just hoping that AFTER The World cup we can find a coach, a GREAT coach who looks not only where the players play or if he is a big name NO

That he invites THE BEST players, who are IN FORM

I mean i really like this list but players like Mobali,Montazeri,Maziar Zareh,Manei are players that have been in GREAT form and deserves a callup,

KasraKhan
02-17-2006, 04:43 AM
and yes, mobali deserved a place there! how come oladi is getting atleast a standy by even though we have 7 other strikers in the main list but just 4 midfielders and mobali doesnt even get a standby! i wouldnt mind seeing mobali instead of khatibi in that list! for heavens sake, wat do we need 7 forwards for?? when we play with maximum 2 forwards and sometimes even 1!!

Well, Kazemian and Rajabzadeh are listed as strikers but they are more like attacking midfielders. Rajabzadeh plays Karimi's position (Central attacking mid) and Kazemian plays Kia's position, right wing. So that leaves 4 strikers for the Taipei match. Daei, Borhani, Akbarpour and Khatibi.

yashar_fasihnia
02-17-2006, 05:14 AM
Well your the one with that "guys" pic on ur avatar.
BRANKO...GET LOST!!!!
No Mobali!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WTF!!!!!!!!!
He has no logic AT ALL behind his selections. If players like Mobali don't get in, decent IPL players who are as under-rated as HELL will NEVER get into TM. Players like Bahodarani or Badamaki or Montezeri or Maneei!!!!!
I am very disapointed we have this "guy" as out TM coach, the guy hasn't even been a manager, and we give him he spot, what a mistake that was!

agha jan,
1)neither me nor u are the coach and know football more than him, so if we disagree with him doesnt mean he is wrong!

2)secondly, TM has place only for 23 players, not even 27 which means some of the players from that list will be striked off! where the hell do u want to put badamaki and bahodorani in that list? who do u wanna take out? guys like oladi, ansarian & nikbakht are standby's and guys like sadeghi,khatibi,shojaei & teymourian might be striked off from this list, cant u see how much competition is there in TM!!! u could go on with players who are doing well in IPL but then the list will be more than 50 players! badamaki, bahodaroani, sepehr heydari, jalal akbari, meysam manei, hossein ashna, syed jalal hosseini, mohsen bengar, navazi, bakhtiarizadeh, maziar zareh and the list goes on! u gonna invite all of them or wat! talk sense for heavens sake!

3)Every coach has a soft corner for certain players and certain stars dont fit in his plans and system! examples? makkay in vanbastens system, hashemian in magaths system, rivaldo in milan, etc! i myself am a big fan of mobali, i wish he would play in main 11, so we could benefit from his free kicks but he hasnt been invited. he likes ceratin players liek navidkia and nosrati. just cos he invites 1 or 2 controversial players and doesnt invite another 1 or 2 doesnt mean u shouldt support ur coach! besides, u never know, he might strike off navidkia's name if he is that bad! look at the bright side, branko invited players like vaezi (playing in first division, which other coach in iran has ever invited a player from the second league in iran?)
He has his own positives and negatives just like everybody else and whether not u but anybody here likes it or not, he is gonna be our coach for worldcup. get used to it!

4)I support branko not cos i think he is the best coach or he gets the best results or makes our team play the best of football. But because to my eyes, he is the best option we have, much better than an ass liek maelli kohan! Like i said earlier, if given a choice between bad and worse, i would choose bad, wat would u choose?

yashar_fasihnia
02-17-2006, 05:19 AM
Well, Kazemian and Rajabzadeh are listed as strikers but they are more like attacking midfielders. Rajabzadeh plays Karimi's position (Central attacking mid) and Kazemian plays Kia's position, right wing. So that leaves 4 strikers for the Taipei match. Daei, Borhani, Akbarpour and Khatibi.
yea, i realized that but :
1)kazemiyan has been performing amazing as a STRIKER in perspolis not as a right midfield. he was given a few chances in RM in TM but he failed. So i dunno if branko will use him as a forward or RM and whether he wil succeed/fail as a forward or RM

2)and as for play makers, we already have jabbari and navidkia and i dont think branko will use rajabzadeh as a playmaker. i think he will use him as a RM or maybe even LM. i dont think he will use rajabzadeh as a forward.

Soaz...(Stoned)
02-17-2006, 05:47 AM
agha jan,
1)neither me nor u are the coach and know football more than him, so if we disagree with him doesnt mean he is wrong!
2)secondly, TM has place only for 23 players, not even 27 which means some of the players from that list will be striked off! where the hell do u want to put badamaki and bahodorani in that list? who do u wanna take out? guys like oladi, ansarian & nikbakht are standby's and guys like sadeghi,khatibi,shojaei & teymourian might be striked off from this list, cant u see how much competition is there in TM!!! u could go on with players who are doing well in IPL but then the list will be more than 50 players! badamaki, bahodaroani, sepehr heydari, jalal akbari, meysam manei, hossein ashna, syed jalal hosseini, mohsen bengar, navazi, bakhtiarizadeh, maziar zareh and the list goes on! u gonna invite all of them or wat! talk sense for heavens sake!
3)Every coach has a soft corner for certain players and certain stars dont fit in his plans and system! examples? makkay in vanbastens system, hashemian in magaths system, rivaldo in milan, etc! i myself am a big fan of mobali, i wish he would play in main 11, so we could benefit from his free kicks but he hasnt been invited. he likes ceratin players liek navidkia and nosrati. just cos he invites 1 or 2 controversial players and doesnt invite another 1 or 2 doesnt mean u shouldt support ur coach! besides, u never know, he might strike off navidkia's name if he is that bad! look at the bright side, branko invited players like vaezi (playing in first division, which other coach in iran has ever invited a player from the second league in iran?)
He has his own positives and negatives just like everybody else and whether not u but anybody here likes it or not, he is gonna be our coach for worldcup. get used to it!
4)I support branko not cos i think he is the best coach or he gets the best results or makes our team play the best of football. But because to my eyes, he is the best option we have, much better than an ass liek maelli kohan! Like i said earlier, if given a choice between bad and worse, i would choose bad, wat would u choose?

Well in that case we shouldn't even look at the IPL. Lets just have 30 players, and invite them from now on.

NEW RULE: No more new faces for TM.

Then how does Van Basten and Holland do it? They rotate based on in-form players and it seems to work. How do Italy do it? How do Spain, USA, Brazil, Ireland do it.

If we look at the above teams announced squads for each match they have had one can see at least 2 new faces each time. I know that Ireland has five new faces in their latest squad.

Guys drop it, Branko wants to do what the fans don't, just to show who's boss, and the guy was never any manager of ANY club before TM from what I know of!

yashar_fasihnia
02-17-2006, 06:20 AM
Well in that case we shouldn't even look at the IPL. Lets just have 30 players, and invite them from now on.
NEW RULE: No more new faces for TM.
Then how does Van Basten and Holland do it? They rotate based on in-form players and it seems to work. How do Italy do it? How do Spain, USA, Brazil, Ireland do it.
If we look at the above teams announced squads for each match they have had one can see at least 2 new faces each time. I know that Ireland has five new faces in their latest squad.
Guys drop it, Branko wants to do what the fans don't, just to show who's boss, and the guy was never any manager of ANY club before TM from what I know of!

va! u mean there are no new faces??
wat about madanchi??
wat about oladi?

and u urself say players in form, so u mean to say we should sacrifice players in form like rajabzadeh/jabbari or whoever just to invite new faces???

infact, u didnt even answer my question, who do u want to replace badamaki and bahodorani with? plz, answer this quesiton first, then complain about branko now inviting new players!

he has invited guys like amirabadi, madanchi, jalal akbari, hossein kazemi, meysam maneei when they were all in form! all these players were new faces when they were invited! so plz stop making wrong accusations!

and no, we shouldnt close our eyes and just invite 30 players, cos that way, players like enayati, khalife asl, will be invited for scoring more than 10 goals but akbarpour and borhani wont be invited cos they scored less than 10!

ur problem is still not clear? r u saying that branko should try out new players or should he try out players who have been playing good lately?

cos if its the first, i think its not possible cos our current state of friendlies is veyr bad and with only 4 friendles, i think its better that we use this 4 friendlies to gel up and coordinate and give our main squad some good experience before the worldcup rather than wasting them on choosing 11 players but with no coordination and experience!

and if ur problem is the second which means he should try out players who are playing good lately, i think he already has!
with the exception of navidkia, all the others have been performing well lately, and like i said, theres only room for 23 players in TM, not 50!
inviting guys like badamaki and bahodorani JUST TO TEST THEM IN FIRST PLACE, THEN COORDINATING THEM WITH THE REST OF THE TEAM AND LASTLY GIVING THEM ITNERNATIONAL EXPERIENCE will cost our other players who are already familiar with the team and have interntional experience and is the "WRONGEST" thing to do now. we neither have the time, nor the resources to do this, so lets just stick to the good players who have some international experience and know the rest of their teammates well enough!

and let me tell u how vanbasten, brazil and the other big teams of the world work!
they play enough friendlies and tournaments to try out new players.
they have enough offers to try out other players against other teams.
they have lotsa money to ask otehr nations for friendlies.

do u see any of these advatages for iran?

mobali_fan
02-17-2006, 06:50 AM
In the chance that he had to lay in TM, Iman did not do well. There also seems to be some major disagreements between Branko and Mobali that we probably do not know about. Branko said before "Mobali knows what he should do to get invited". I am GUESSING that the two disagree on the position he should play. Branko wants him to train differently for a different position than he is playing right now but Iman does not want to do that. There is currently a congestion of players in the mid-field. I don't think this is related to the Daei incident. Mobali has said that if he sees Daei he will apologize for the foul but he insists that the fould was technical and not intentional.

I hope that Iman resolves the issues and gets invited back to TM in the future.
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Do you remember Mobali used to play different roles in Omid team? He was right winger at a time and Defensive Midfielder later. And in Foulad he played as a striker alongside Ka'bi for a short time. Do you remember Iran-North Korea that we won 3-1? Mobali was a winger on that match. You see in different times, Mobali has played in different roles. Problem solved, huh?
And yes there's a congestion because a player like Navidkia has been invited. Baba for God's sake the last time he played a typical good game was like 2 years ago. What is that he gets invited again and again?
I hope Branco will leave Iran as a coach as soon as possible only because of Mobali matter

Mack
02-17-2006, 07:49 AM
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IRN Rugby Playa
02-17-2006, 07:55 AM
i personally think mobali WILL be invited to germany, however branko wants him to tighten up his calibre right now!....however right now hes a great player and ...branko should have at elast phoned him and told him that he might have a chance....it would have increased his morale..! anwzazs well see wut happens

Ala
02-17-2006, 08:44 AM
So i am confused here OK
Is it Samad Zareh who is invited or Sattar Zareh. ?
:) Appreciated if someone can clear this out for me


i think IFF made a mistake by naming Samad Zare.
IFF site now says Sattar Zare!!!

Ala
02-17-2006, 08:48 AM
... I hope Branco will leave Iran as a coach as soon as possible only because of Mobali matter



Branko could have a personal problem with a player and exclude him from the team. This may happen and has happened in the past. I don't think IFF would let Branko only coz he did not invite Iman or coz he insisted on inviting Daei. They look at a coach with his record, and Branko's has been the greatest ever! So, he says.

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Ala
02-17-2006, 08:51 AM
... I hope Branco will leave Iran as a coach as soon as possible only because of Mobali matter



Branko could have a personal problem with a player and exclude him from the team. This may happen and has happened in the past. I don't think IFF would let Branko go only coz he did not invite Iman or coz he insisted on inviting Daei. They look at a coach with his record, and Branko's has been the greatest ever! So, he says. then if Iman wants to be part of TM he knows EXACTLY what to do (this, according to Branko!)

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yashar_fasihnia
02-17-2006, 08:53 AM
Branko could have a personal problem with a player and exclude him from the team. This may happen and has happened in the past. I don't think IFF would let Branko only coz he did not invite Iman or coz he insisted on inviting Daei. They look at a coach with his record, and Branko's has been the greatest ever! So, he says.
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thankyou!
examples?
roy keane was left out by ireland!
nwanko kanu was left out by nigeria!

imagine karimi/kia being left out by iran! atleast thank god its mobali cos he is young and has a bright future and will play in the future worldcups!
and dont get me wrong, im a big fan of mobali, but we should prefer the benefits of a team, not a player!

Doctor DOOM
02-17-2006, 11:19 AM
hehehe

more DENIALS and bending of reality ..... all to excuse branko !!!
it's happening so frequently that has lost its edge and is more funny and comic than anything else !
:o


I wonder why some of us have branko as priority, when we SHD have TM as our priority ???

I truely wonder !!

ShirFarhad
02-17-2006, 11:27 AM
hehehe

more DENIALS and bending of reality ..... all to excuse branko !!!
it's happening so frequently that has lost its edge and is more funny and comic than anything else !
:o


I wonder why some of us have branko as priority, when we SHD have TM as our priority ???

I truely wonder !!

Maybe it would be time for you to learn this fact.

Team Melli = The players and the coach

Ala
02-17-2006, 11:51 AM
Maybe it would be time for you to learn this fact.
Team Melli = The players and the coach


Exactly!

You cannot say I support TM but not Branko, Karimi, Nekonum, Nosrati and Mirzapour! You cannot also say that I suport TM ONLY IF Mobali and Kazemian play there or only IF Mayeli Kohan is the coach! If we do it like this, there MAY not be a SINGLE TEAM any two Iranian may agree upon! We should all stand by our team 100% and support them no matter who plays and coaches, while at the same time we should discuss the players and coach performance.

BUT, there are people who zealously say that so and so player should be in and so and so MUST be out and caoch MUST NOT be so and if it does not go according to our wishes we are going to destroy the whole thing! As if TM ONLY belongs to them. For god sake, this is TM of 70 million people!


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Martin-Reza
02-17-2006, 11:53 AM
Maybe it would be time for you to learn this fact.
Team Melli = The players and the coach

Hehe

Doctor DOOM
02-17-2006, 12:05 PM
hehehe
farhad jan, aziz ,

maybe it's time for YOU to learn:

when a team changes its coach, it does NOT DIE , or blip out of existence !!

it does happen all over the world.
therefore the TM is an entity that is most sacred.
not the coach or players or .... who come and go.

TM is what matters.
no ppl.

chew on that, a bit.
:D

and if such concepts are too hard to understand and may give you a head ache, take an aspirin and try again.