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Kflex
01-26-2006, 08:19 PM
Many have criticed branco fore his selection of player!
But i think that the most importent thing fore tm melli is not to invite the best players but players that you know do there job and give 100%
Take a look at Greece! The coach did not pic the best players in the team! But players that he counted on to do there job. We all know that Mobali and the likes of others is wery good players, but maybe branco have a different type of strategi fore tm melli to play! And want a more defensive type of play! And is why types of Alavi and Nadavika fits wery well. Nadavika isent the faset player but hi plays fast whit on touch passes.
Daei is maybe old and not as fysik and fast that he yoused to be!
But he has many years of experience! Take a look at Mihajlovic in Inter. He dosent even run but his always on the rigth plays and understand the enviroment wery well.
Sorry fore my spelling. Hope you dont geet a sare dard. Peace

Arashi_Washi
01-26-2006, 08:22 PM
Mihajlovic is older the Daei if i aint mistaken or they are same age ?

But i mean Mihajlovic is a good player still, his freekicks are still 1 of the best in Serie A

EKBATAN
01-26-2006, 09:48 PM
eye shore HoPe tHo

186forever
01-26-2006, 10:25 PM
how do you know a certain player can not get the job done when u never gave him a chance???

btw, I understand ur theory, and if that s the case then fine.
BUT
there are some spots in our starting line up that we absolutely have no backup for. How can a back up defender like Bagheri or Pashazadeh hurt or not work with branco s strategy??

IRN Rugby Playa
01-26-2006, 10:26 PM
Many have criticed branco fore his selection of player!
But i think that the most importent thing fore tm melli is not to invite the best players but players that you know do there job and give 100%
Take a look at Greece! The coach did not pic the best players in the team! But players that he counted on to do there job. We all know that Mobali and the likes of others is wery good players, but maybe branco have a different type of strategi fore tm melli to play! And want a more defensive type of play! And is why types of Alavi and Nadavika fits wery well. Nadavika isent the faset player but hi plays fast whit on touch passes.
Daei is maybe old and not as fysik and fast that he yoused to be!
But he has many years of experience! Take a look at Mihajlovic in Inter. He dosent even run but his always on the rigth plays and understand the enviroment wery well.
Sorry fore my spelling. Hope you dont geet a sare dard. Peace



i love the way u think.......
great mentality bro

zzgloo
01-26-2006, 11:23 PM
Many have criticed branco fore his selection of player!
But i think that the most importent thing fore tm melli is not to invite the best players but players that you know do there job and give 100%
Take a look at Greece! The coach did not pic the best players in the team! But players that he counted on to do there job. We all know that Mobali and the likes of others is wery good players, but maybe branco have a different type of strategi fore tm melli to play! And want a more defensive type of play! And is why types of Alavi and Nadavika fits wery well. Nadavika isent the faset player but hi plays fast whit on touch passes.
Daei is maybe old and not as fysik and fast that he yoused to be!
But he has many years of experience! Take a look at Mihajlovic in Inter. He dosent even run but his always on the rigth plays and understand the enviroment wery well.
Sorry fore my spelling. Hope you dont geet a sare dard. Peace
I have not been a Branco supporter, but to an extend, I agree with you,forign coaches are not byest,and pick the talents to fit thier system,regardless of who may be faimouse....for example, if we had an Iranian coach, he probebly would have put players such as bagheri and Azizi in the TM, but I much prefer what we have now, than those two players, for example....

Doctor DOOM
01-27-2006, 01:04 AM
how do you know a certain player can not get the job done when u never gave him a chance???


great statement, pooya jan.

indeed how can x or y be ruled out , just becoz branko THINKS they wont do the job?

did sadeghi get even HALF the chances nosrati got at TM's left back position?
how many games was he allowed to start for TM, so branko would be convinced he is so terrible and not worth a try?

why was amirabadi not allowed to play the togo match, for example?
especially after he did so well against macedonia in that 40 minutes he got.

why doesnt branko rewards good performances?
isnt it just becoz these are the players he has ALREADY ( before they even play ) has DECIDED not to rely on ?

how many games did kazemian and mobaali play full 90 minutes to not only settle into a game, but be allowed to have enough freedom to show their stuff?
did they get as many nods as an out-of-form navidkia or niki or karimi or ... ?


there lies branko's hypocricy.
he is not fair, and has been so becoz of his illogical laj-baazi.


and Iran and TM is going to pay the price for this lajbaazi !!
:furious: :furious: :furious: :furious: :angry: :angry:

Kflex
01-27-2006, 01:35 AM
Take a look at some coaches that coach european teams! They have a system and pic players that they know will do there job down! Many of theese players have done a great job! Iam not the biggest fan of branco either but still think that he has created a great balance in the team fore sure!

A team that always win is a team mixed whit really good skilled players, mixed whit hard working and by last players whit experience!

The really good ones. Karimi, Mahdavika, Hashemian, Nekounam and Reazai

Hard working! Kabbi, Zandi, Nahdavika, Zahre, Niki (in form)

Experience. Daei, Golmohamadi

You need to have a balance in a team!

Look at Real Madrid whit all the stars! Does they even play good know days!

And look at Barcelona, they have a good mix. Beside Ronaldhino, Eto, Messi and Poyol the rest of the team has hard working players that do there job.

Lets us go and support our team! Becuse the only thing that we can do is to have hope and think positive and support our coach!

Thats who the Greeks won. If they can why not us !

darthmaul
01-27-2006, 02:20 AM
baba daei is just there cause he sells the shirts. baba the ex legend cant even run anymore for godssakes

Soaz...(Stoned)
01-27-2006, 05:41 AM
great statement, pooya jan.
indeed how can x or y be ruled out , just becoz branko THINKS they wont do the job?
did sadeghi get even HALF the chances nosrati got at TM's left back position?
how many games was he allowed to start for TM, so branko would be convinced he is so terrible and not worth a try?
why was amirabadi not allowed to play the togo match, for example?
especially after he did so well against macedonia in that 40 minutes he got.
why doesnt branko rewards good performances?
isnt it just becoz these are the players he has ALREADY ( before they even play ) has DECIDED not to rely on ?
how many games did kazemian and mobaali play full 90 minutes to not only settle into a game, but be allowed to have enough freedom to show their stuff?
did they get as many nods as an out-of-form navidkia or niki or karimi or ... ?
there lies branko's hypocricy.
he is not fair, and has been so becoz of his illogical laj-baazi.
and Iran and TM is going to pay the price for this lajbaazi !!
:furious: :furious: :furious: :furious: :angry: :angry:

I understand were ur source of anger is coming from DD. I also hate this wimp, BUT, we have NO other option now! Come on, don't say we can bring in Macala or whoever for 5 months, thats more of a fantasy for people who think Branko is the right coach for TM! Thats why I think we should just try to show confidence in him, for the sake of TM.

K flex...I don't agree with you...Like 186 and DD said, how can you see who can fit in TM or not before even trying them...!?? I don't agree with your theory on mixing hardworkers, experiance and amazing players. I agree with your INTENSIONAL theory of it, but the way you have explained it is incorrect.

persiangodfather
01-27-2006, 06:48 AM
did anybody see how mexico played with norway?? doesnt matter if we have the best strategy we need to start playin some friendlies cuz at this rate do u guys remember germany beat saudi 8-0.. i think portugal guna do that to us

EKBATAN
01-27-2006, 01:03 PM
NO way amir jan,

there is no way we would lose 8-0 we have too much gheyrat to even let it go past 4-0! Those stupid arabs are toys for europeans like germany, but iran is totally different. If in case it goes that bad, there will be a fight or red cards everywhere...lol

AKBARPOOR FOR TEAM MELLI!

MNavidkia
01-27-2006, 01:32 PM
Many have criticed branco fore his selection of player!
But i think that the most importent thing fore tm melli is not to invite the best players but players that you know do there job and give 100%
Take a look at Greece! The coach did not pic the best players in the team! But players that he counted on to do there job. We all know that Mobali and the likes of others is wery good players, but maybe branco have a different type of strategi fore tm melli to play! And want a more defensive type of play! And is why types of Alavi and Nadavika fits wery well. Nadavika isent the faset player but hi plays fast whit on touch passes.
Daei is maybe old and not as fysik and fast that he yoused to be!
But he has many years of experience! Take a look at Mihajlovic in Inter. He dosent even run but his always on the rigth plays and understand the enviroment wery well.
Sorry fore my spelling. Hope you dont geet a sare dard. Peace


Joone man be branko begoo yekhorde ham spell kardan be to yaad bede.

dahanam saaf shod taa posteto betoonam bekhoonam.

i agree w/ u only on some points

1908
01-27-2006, 03:38 PM
Mihalovic is a disgrace..i as an inter fan know him upside down i hate the guy ..its a shame his playing for inter thank god this season his only playiing coppa italia he sucks his useless ...how many goals has he scored for us this season ay ...he sucks he doesnt know how 2 man mark all he knows is how to fight and spit on players ....

dude pick a rite player and compare ..not some useless person
the only reason he is at inter is cuz of mancinis love for his ex lazio players thats all

Arashi_Washi
01-27-2006, 06:48 PM
Bran*** plan is following,

The guy does not belive in any player,
He is only expecting the MAGIC of our bundesliga players to do the trick,,,

He will hope for Mahdavikia and hashemain to do their thiing..i mean if he doesnt have a plan whats the reason going in there

Anyway i trust Branko and i hope he does the right thing going into this huge tournament

ramingeles2000
01-27-2006, 10:19 PM
Dr Doom, what makes you sure that branko isn't the right coach? are you a football analyst? what makes you think that our team is missing out on SOOO much?

The job of a coach is to take the resources he has and use them to full potential. our world ranking and easy qualification to the world cup proved branko's worth.

the times when iran has REALLY shown its true face, the face that we'll see in the world cup...was in two games.

Korea: 4-3, and Japan 2-1. We beat TWO WORLD CUP powers. of course, you don't think thats important. all you do is focus on the negative. branko is an incredibly intelligent coach, and he has done wonders for our football.

you always complain that he has no reputation, isn't famous, blah blah...He is MAKING HIS REPUTATION NOW. Blazevic, a world class coach, couldn't do crap for us, and branko takes us to the world cup. does this mean nothing to you? We couldn't beat thailand and bahrain, and with branko we're scoring four goals against a team that took the last world cup by storm.

there is very little room for improvement. how do you know that certain players that YOU think should be in team melli deserve to be there? branko has a lot of practice time with them, and analyzes them very closely, its his job. Do you honestly think you are a better judge of who should be in team melli than a professional who lives just to do this?

if you do think this, you are an idiot. you have absolutely no valid points. anyone who bashes branko without clear reasoning is an idiot.

1908
01-28-2006, 03:54 AM
mate the last time we played korea and japan we lost wat r u talking about and THEY R NOT 2 WORLD CUP POWERS ...

with the talent iran has japan and korea can dream on having ...

Rooz
01-28-2006, 05:05 AM
the only plan he has is to reach a WC as a real coach. he took the job in the first palce because he could see some potential, if he cared about iranian football he'd leave and let someone new come in, sounds a lot like his bumchum daei

Shahin K
01-28-2006, 06:58 AM
I found this on the AFC site: "With the talents that they possess, it is only a matter of time before IR Iran blow their opposition away. The challenge that remains is for the coach of blend all these brilliant individuals into a cohesive unit."

I hope Branko will do that! and make TM better as a team!

ramingeles2000
01-28-2006, 03:27 PM
the last time we played korea and japan, the stakes werent high...always look to when the stakes and competition are high to see when a team shows its true self

Doctor DOOM
01-29-2006, 11:46 AM
ramin jan, I would have replied to your post, had you not been talking thu' your arse !!

( reference to utter farts like me saying he has no reputation ?? and no issues in my criticism ??? )

all I did , when I read ur post, was laugh at the same time feel pity for you to be so lost .

have you ever actually READ any of my posts to say there are no issues in those crticisms?

never mind, kiddo.
you carry on with your drivel anyway.

ramingeles2000
01-29-2006, 02:01 PM
way to try to back out of responding to my posts...just respond so that im enlightened to your viewpoints. if your points are logical ill respect your opinion. if you really believed in what you had to say you'd answer my post.

Doctor DOOM
01-29-2006, 02:08 PM
a visit to F+ forum and browsing thru' the past 2-3 pages shd do the job.

I have repeated all of them so many times, I myself am sick of it !!

KasraKhan
01-29-2006, 03:29 PM
the last time we played korea and japan, the stakes werent high...always look to when the stakes and competition are high to see when a team shows its true self
this is a very good point that many of us tend to overlook. i agree 100% ramin jan

Nasim
01-29-2006, 08:18 PM
Many have criticed branco fore his selection of player!
But i think that the most importent thing fore tm melli is not to invite the best players but players that you know do there job and give 100%
Take a look at Greece! The coach did not pic the best players in the team! But players that he counted on to do there job. We all know that Mobali and the likes of others is wery good players, but maybe branco have a different type of strategi fore tm melli to play! And want a more defensive type of play! And is why types of Alavi and Nadavika fits wery well. Nadavika isent the faset player but hi plays fast whit on touch passes.
Daei is maybe old and not as fysik and fast that he yoused to be!
But he has many years of experience! Take a look at Mihajlovic in Inter. He dosent even run but his always on the rigth plays and understand the enviroment wery well.
Sorry fore my spelling. Hope you dont geet a sare dard. Peace



true

186forever
01-29-2006, 09:41 PM
Korea: 4-3, and Japan 2-1. We beat TWO WORLD CUP powers. of course, you don't think thats important. all you do is focus on the negative. branko is an incredibly intelligent coach, and he has done wonders for our football.
you always complain that he has no reputation, isn't famous, blah blah...He is MAKING HIS REPUTATION NOW. Blazevic, a world class coach, couldn't do crap for us, and branko takes us to the world cup. does this mean nothing to you? We couldn't beat thailand and bahrain, and with branko we're scoring four goals against a team that took the last world cup by storm.

TWO WORLD CUP POWERS???
so Greece is the European power.....where the f are they now????
I guess this makes Ukrain and Turkey the best 2 european teams since they killed greece...
If we re gonna make statements like this and that by defeating Korea and Japan we have defeated world cup power houses, then we ll never get anywhere.
Korea had pure luck against Italy and Spain and those two games were amont the top 10 worst officiating games ever in the world cup history.
We should be capble of beating any team in Asia if we really want to be called one of the best in Asia if not the best.
I m not bashing branco, god knows what the heck is really going on and what s gonna happen to us in the world cup, but statements like that is just not right.....

gdoggali
01-30-2006, 12:00 AM
Its laughable how ramingeles' uses Korea and Japan to prove his point. They are "world cup powers", yah sure....

The fact is, our greatest performance was against the best Asian teams --- this by no means we will perform well against European, South American, or even African teams.

Second fact, our two most recent matches against those two sides were both embarrasing losses in which the majority of the game we were under pressure. In the Korean friendly we used all our main players while the Korean team was under disarray just having hired a new coach and staff just a few days prior. In addition, the Korean coach tried many new faces.

The Japanese loss was even worse. The Japanese onslaught was visible from the start of the game and we were lucky to only concede two goals.


So, you see the trend is a downward spiral, and we're spiraling fast. From the summer of 2004 onward we have regressed to 1998-2002 levels.

2005 was probably the worst year for Iranian football since 93 when we failed to qualify for WC2004.

ramingeles2000
01-30-2006, 04:09 AM
GDogg, if 2005 was the worst year in iranian football history, then i dont want to even try to argue your statement. instead, id like to know the location of the crack dealer that supplies you.

by world cup powers, i didnt mean one of the best teams in the world. i meant strong teams that performed in the top 20 in the world cup. i dont care what type of luck korea had in the world cup, you can look to their friendlies since 2002 and other performances to see that they are an incredibly able squad. the same goes for japan.

once again, none of you mindless branko bashers have a response to this statement:

When it really mattered, when iran was pressured to perform at their highest level, (Korea AC2004 and Japan WCQ) they were victorious. the true iran came out in these 2 games. Maybe branko has used other games as experiments and test matches. But when it really mattered, we saw the true iran. this is the same iran we will see in wc2006.

if you believe that bullshit friendlies are a better indicator of a teams expected performance than life or death world cup qualifers and continental tournament matches, then you are truly retarded. no disprespect intended. :)

gdoggali
01-30-2006, 10:41 PM
GDogg, if 2005 was the worst year in iranian football history, then i dont want to even try to argue your statement. instead, id like to know the location of the crack dealer that supplies you.
by world cup powers, i didnt mean one of the best teams in the world. i meant strong teams that performed in the top 20 in the world cup. i dont care what type of luck korea had in the world cup, you can look to their friendlies since 2002 and other performances to see that they are an incredibly able squad. the same goes for japan.
once again, none of you mindless branko bashers have a response to this statement:
When it really mattered, when iran was pressured to perform at their highest level, (Korea AC2004 and Japan WCQ) they were victorious. the true iran came out in these 2 games. Maybe branko has used other games as experiments and test matches. But when it really mattered, we saw the true iran. this is the same iran we will see in wc2006.
if you believe that bullshit friendlies are a better indicator of a teams expected performance than life or death world cup qualifers and continental tournament matches, then you are truly retarded. no disprespect intended. :)


Ramingeles:

I can't hold a discussion with you since your reading comprehension level is close to that of 5th grader.

Read my sentence again. It says, "2005 was probably the worst year for Iranian football SINCE (keyword) 1993." No where in the statement do I refer to it being the worst year EVER. If you're going to engage in a discussion and use my sentence which you obviously did not even read to the end, and then USE THAT to claim I have no knowledge; well that is laughable like I said before.

SO yes, I would like to know the location of your crack dealer and your use of crack which re-wires your brain to replace the word SINCE with EVER. Thanks.

On to the point.

In the last WorldCUP, Korea and Japan did perform in the top20. SO, what? Theres been 16 worldcups, and in ONE of them these two teams performed well. For a team to be regarded as a "world cup power", it has to show a CONTINUAL HISTORY of performance at the highest level in succesive world cups, not just one. As such, we can hardly denote Korea and Japan to be
"world cup powers." If you ask 100 random football fans and experts around the world, do you think more than 10 would claim Korea and Japan to be world cup powers? Really, I'd like to know your thoughts on this.

Yes, when it really mattered, Iran did perform well in those two games. But you can't be selective in making your argument. If you want to say that, you have to also acknowledge the other side of the coin. When it mattered even MORE, Iran was only able to tie a lackluster Chinese team in AC2004 through use of incorrect tactics and formation by Branko, not the players faults

When it really mattered, Branko was the first TM coach to lose a comptetive match at home in Azadi in 60 years of footballing history, against Jordan.

When it really mattered, Branko used an ineffective Daei in Hashemians position and put Hashemian on the left flank so we could tie Bahrain 1-1.

Yes, these were the times it MATTERED, as was the Japan and Korea games. The point, look at both sides of the coin.

Arashi_Washi
01-30-2006, 10:46 PM
Ramingeles:
I can't hold a discussion with you since your reading comprehension level is close to that of 5th grader.
Read my sentence again. It says, "2005 was probably the worst year for Iranian football SINCE (keyword) 1993." No where in the statement do I refer to it being the worst year EVER. If you're going to engage in a discussion and use my sentence which you obviously did not even read to the end, and then USE THAT to claim I have no knowledge; well that is laughable like I said before.
SO yes, I'd would like to know the location of your crack dealer which re-wires your brain to replace the word SINCE with EVER. Thanks.
On to the point.
In the last WorldCUP, Korea and Japan did perform in the top20. SO, what? Theres been 16 worldcups, and in ONE of them these two teams performed well. For a team to be regarded as a "world cup power", it has to show a CONTINUAL HISTORY of performance at the highest level in succesive world cups, not just one. As such, we can hardly denote Korea and Japan to be
"world cup powers." If you ask 100 random football fans and experts around the world, do you think more than 10 would claim Korea and Japan to be world cup powers? Really, I'd like to know your thoughts on this.
Yes, when it really mattered, Iran did perform well in those two games. But you can't be selective in making your argument. If you want to say that, you have to also acknowledge the other side of the coin. When it mattered even MORE, Iran was only able to tie a lackluster Chinese team in AC2004 through use of incorrect tactics and formation by Branko, not the players faults
When it really mattered, Branko was the first TM coach to lose a comptetive match at home in Azadi in 60 years of footballing history, against Jordan.
When it really mattered, Branko used an ineffective Daei in Hashemians position and put Hashemian on the left flank so we could tie Bahrain 1-1.
Yes, these were the times it MATTERED, as was the Japan and Korea games. The point, look at both sides of the coin.

When it matterd Branko beat Jordan 2-0 and Qatar 3-2,,,
When it matterd Branko tried his hardest to recruit only the best for Team melli and dont tell me we would of had Hashemain and Zandi without Bran*** immense hardwork and all his trips back and forth between Iran and Germany

When it really matterd he Gave us a Win agasint Bahrain in Azadi to make us qualify with 1 game in Hand

Or what about the Win agasint Japan in Azadi, that matterd didnt it,

Dont come here and tell us it was Bran*** fault we lost to China in Semifinals, we were cheated to the Maximum level Dadashe man,

In Asian cup if there was 1 team that played the best soccer it was US,,
I still remember that game we played agasint Japan in the groupstage,

Dominated them, missed oppurtunities, we were the BETTER team,,sooo much pressure that even in the last 5 minutes out of nowhere the Japanese keept the ball in defence and did not push forward THATS how good we played,,,

We have had our good days and we have had our bad days, At the end of the day EVERY coach in the World makes mistakes

So know. Get off Bran*** back and go find something else to do instead of Bagging him,

If this is how Iranians show gratitude to their coach i wouldnt want to see how the Togo or Angola coach or even the S.Africa or Ghana coach is being treated at the moment,

Common we have enough problems as it is,

ramingeles2000
01-30-2006, 11:02 PM
we only lost the china game because of reffing, gdogg, and you know that my points are valid. how can you point our loss in that game to branko's incorrect tactics?

What about his tactics were incorrect? how would you know? we would have won that game without the reffing blunder.

and once again, you know what i meant when i called korea and japan world cup powers. stop using my diction to put down my arguments, you dont have to stoop to that level.

who has EVER DONE A BETTER JOB for iranian football? you think theres all this potential that we havent reached, but tell me, who has ever even come close?

gdoggali
01-31-2006, 12:40 AM
we only lost the china game because of reffing, gdogg, and you know that my points are valid. how can you point our loss in that game to branko's incorrect tactics?
What about his tactics were incorrect? how would you know? we would have won that game without the reffing blunder.
and once again, you know what i meant when i called korea and japan world cup powers. stop using my diction to put down my arguments, you dont have to stoop to that level.
who has EVER DONE A BETTER JOB for iranian football? you think theres all this potential that we havent reached, but tell me, who has ever even come close?


So now you want to blame it on the ref? I agree, the ref was horrible.

But even with the worst referee we should have slaughtered a weak Chinese team. By tactics, I meant changing a formula which worked against Korea (i.e formation 4-4-2 or 3-4-3) to one which has proven time and time again to be ineffectual, 4-2-3-1. Thats why I say it was Branko's blunder, and not the players fault.

And, you know you were wrong to call Korea and Japan world cup powers. If you dont want me to blame your diction, then use correct words, instead of using hyperboles to further your own argument. Like I said, Korea and Japan are NOT world cup powers. Use the correct term next time. You can call them Asian powers, but by no means are they world cup powers. End of story.

The only person who is stooping to a low level is you, with your use of wildly exaggerated terms like "world cup powers" to further your agenda and argument. I repeat, they are by no means of the word, WORLD CUP POWERS. World cup powers are Brazil, Germany, England, France, Argentina, Holland, Italy...not Japan and Korea. Got it? Good.

What do you mean who has ever come close? Wake up, this is not the first WC Iran has qualified to. We've done it on two prevoius occasions. And I hope you don't mean our 3rd place in Asian Cup 2004 as a spectacular Branko achievement. In the 1970s we won the Cup three times in a row. THATS WHO CAME CLOSE TO BRANKO AND SUPRASSED HIM.

I'm done with this thread, you have nothing to provide but hyperbole and exaggeration and like I pointed out your reading comprehension is that of a 5 year old. Why would I waste my time with someone who changes my words when I said 2005 was our worst year since 1993 and you change it to "2005 was our worst year EVER." And then you claim, I know nothing.

Like I said, your arguments are as follows:

1) Use hyperbole to exaggerate other teams strenghths and call them "world cup powers" to further your own argument :nono:
2) Not being able to comprehend a simple sentence and use your own made up idea of it to claim that I know nothing. :nono:


Like I said, I'm done with this thread. Come back when you stop changing peoples words and stop your exaggerations.

Doctor DOOM
01-31-2006, 01:01 AM
when it mattered, we like to say the ref was against us.
but we will deny the occasion that REALLY mattered : where the ref actually came to our aid:

1- against oman.
had he not, we would have been out on our arses in the first round of AC2004. so there wouldnt have been a korea 3-4 game even !!

2- against qatar
had he not, we would have been , FOR THE FIRST TIME IN OUR HISTORY, eliminated froma WCQ FIRST round !!!

3- I wont even count the favors we recived from the ref at n korea.

what double standards !!! :eek:

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btw, arash (karimi-no1) jan, I dont know about others, but the way you keep changing back and forth between support of branko and criticism ..... on DAILY basis .... it's just too confusing !!
hezb-e baad boodan ham, haddi dareh !!!

dont you worry about such instability in decision making?
:o

Arashi_Washi
01-31-2006, 01:32 AM
when it mattered, we like to say the ref was against us.
but we will deny the occasion that REALLY mattered : where the ref actually came to our aid:

1- against oman.
had he not, we would have been out on our arses in the first round of AC2004. so there wouldnt have been a korea 3-4 game even !!

2- against qatar
had he not, we would have been , FOR THE FIRST TIME IN OUR HISTORY, eliminated froma WCQ FIRST round !!!

3- I wont even count the favors we recived from the ref at n korea.

what double standards !!! :eek:

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btw, arash (karimi-no1) jan, I dont know about others, but the way you keep changing back and forth between support of branko and criticism ..... on DAILY basis .... it's just too confusing !!
hezb-e baad boodan ham, haddi dareh !!!

dont you worry about such instability in decision making?
:o

I have allways been in support of Branko, you might be confused cause when i say i dont want Branko after the world cup wich is true

I dont want Branko to be our coach in the world cup but i have allways supported him and i know in some areas he is weak and does not understand wich i have pointed out once in a while.

But i am a Branko supporter and i know he will do good for iran in 2006 BUT do i want him to stay in charge of us after 2006

NO, thats my final answer,

I critizise branko true, but i support him aswell,,i can Critizise his weak points whenever i belive he is doing the wrong thing but does not mean i do now support him...

ramingeles2000
01-31-2006, 02:01 AM
dude gdogg you're full of crap my friend:
a weak china team? that 'weak' team made it to the finals! we were playing a team that went to the finals on their HOME GROUND.

and its absoultely hilarious that you bring up iran's asian cup championships in the 70's. in the 70's playing japan was like playing Bhutan. asia was at such a comparatively low level that it wasnt a huge achievement to win the asian cup. so you're shut down there.

and you're pathetic, all you bring up is that i called Japan and Korea world cup powers to further your pissy argument. You know what i meant, obviously theyre not the best teams at the world cup consistently, but they are solid teams that have placed in the top 20 in the world cup since 1994. They are the most powerful teams we play against consistently and we defeated them both.


and i KNOW that this isnt the only world cup we've qualified to. Forget about the 70's, look at 1998...we were lucky to qualify then. you cant deny that this has been our easiest, and most comfortable world cup qualification.

Branko switched the formation of the players during the korea game constantly, even ferdosipoor kept saying, so how the hell would you know what they were using?

hahah a 'weak' chinese team? we were better than they were, but they were by no means weak. We should have beat them 2-1 and it was by freak accident that we didnt win.

What has branko done WRONG? where have we been SCREWED because of him? what important game have we LOST? not counting jordan, where the team had just recently fallen under his wing, and jordan were having the golden months of their football?

and also, WHAT do you suggest? WHO will come to iran? who can we AFFORD? who has done a better job IN THE PAST? it's so easy to criticize...why not bring in Erikson or Ferguson?

your argument is full of freakin' holes man

yashar_fasihnia
01-31-2006, 03:09 AM
dude gdogg you're full of crap my friend:
a weak china team? that 'weak' team made it to the finals! we were playing a team that went to the finals on their HOME GROUND.
and its absoultely hilarious that you bring up iran's asian cup championships in the 70's. in the 70's playing japan was like playing Bhutan. asia was at such a comparatively low level that it wasnt a huge achievement to win the asian cup. so you're shut down there.
and you're pathetic, all you bring up is that i called Japan and Korea world cup powers to further your pissy argument. You know what i meant, obviously theyre not the best teams at the world cup consistently, but they are solid teams that have placed in the top 20 in the world cup since 1994. They are the most powerful teams we play against consistently and we defeated them both.
and i KNOW that this isnt the only world cup we've qualified to. Forget about the 70's, look at 1998...we were lucky to qualify then. you cant deny that this has been our easiest, and most comfortable world cup qualification.
Branko switched the formation of the players during the korea game constantly, even ferdosipoor kept saying, so how the hell would you know what they were using?
hahah a 'weak' chinese team? we were better than they were, but they were by no means weak. We should have beat them 2-1 and it was by freak accident that we didnt win.
What has branko done WRONG? where have we been SCREWED because of him? what important game have we LOST? not counting jordan, where the team had just recently fallen under his wing, and jordan were having the golden months of their football?
and also, WHAT do you suggest? WHO will come to iran? who can we AFFORD? who has done a better job IN THE PAST? it's so easy to criticize...why not bring in Erikson or Ferguson?
your argument is full of freakin' holes man

aziz, bikhiyal, ina ta akharesham mishinan maskhare mikonan.
they are in lala land, thinking we can fire branko today, bring in hitzfeld tommorow, settle him down day after and he will take us to the high levels in germany with just 4 months of preparation...and ofcourse, nobody will be there to pressurize him and interfere in his work,, IN IRAN! :rofl:

its no use arguing with them, they can turn anything against branko, not only his flaws, but also his good points and achievements! whether it is his "final score" objective game plans, his selection of players or it is the tournaments we have shined and even won under him. lately, it seems people are not even associationg the return of hashemian to TM to branko!:bs:

aziz, yasino tu gushe khar dari mikhuni, bikhiyal. :nono:

ShirFarhad
01-31-2006, 08:52 AM
when it mattered, we like to say the ref was against us.
but we will deny the occasion that REALLY mattered : where the ref actually came to our aid:

2- against qatar
had he not, we would have been , FOR THE FIRST TIME IN OUR HISTORY, eliminated froma WCQ FIRST round !!!

3- I wont even count the favors we recived from the ref at n korea.


Are you sure you watched the same matches as I did?

The referee came to our aid in these two matches? Especially against Qatar where he didn't say anything to the players which where grassrolling for more than 10 minutes?

The only wrong decision against North Korea was the PK that wasn't given.

Doctor DOOM
01-31-2006, 10:13 AM
I dont want Branko to be our coach in the world cup but i have allways supported him and i know in some areas he is weak and does not understand wich i have pointed out once in a while.

But i am a Branko supporter and i know he will do good for iran in 2006 BUT do i want him to stay in charge of us after 2006

NO, thats my final answer,



:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rofl:
there u go again !!!!!!!!!:D :rolleyes:


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farhad jan, if the ref had NOT behaved just like the other refs who officiated our games against arabs, we shd thank him. sad but true. how many games can we recount on ref s screwing us on any and many issues?

secondly, had he blown his whistle only 30 seconds earlier, where woudl you be?
I'll tell you: at the front line of the lynch mob aiming to hang branko !!

was that barnko's ability or shear luck/ref's favors/god's grace, ..... that the ref waited another 30 seconds ?

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"easiest qualification" ?

give ANYONE such an easy route, easy group, high odds and such a talented team, and the result would be the same, or even BETTER .

anyone.
even MK

Doctor DOOM
02-01-2006, 05:12 PM
dear yashar,

always remember, it takes a real KHAR to recognize another.

....... or maybe yashar jan has been staring at shirfarhad's avatar way too long , to behave this way !!!

ramingeles2000
02-01-2006, 05:40 PM
dr doom...who is the best coach iran has ever had? this is going to be interesting...

yashar_fasihnia
02-01-2006, 07:10 PM
dear yashar,

always remember, it takes a real KHAR to recognize another.

....... or maybe yashar jan has been staring at shirfarhad's avatar way too long , to behave this way !!!

or maybe its just that great minds think alike....;)

coincidentally, u, maelli kohan & kayhan varzeshi also think alike, so i guess thats why they also came up with "Fools seldom differ" !!!